Subject: freedom of speech

It has EVERYTHING to do with it though. Readers in the US could have read that post and had a Mum, Dad, Friends that were killed in the Twin Towers.

My point is met perfectly, what is funny to some is not always funny to the next erson and usually it depends on circumstances.

I am sure there were jokes about the Tsunami at Japan (I have not seen any) but if you see the videos of the devastation and people literally losing anything.......how is that kind of thing funny?

http://online.sokker.org/forum_topic.php?ID_forum=1260&ID_topic=2175082&pg=1

2010-02-04 13:11:15
rtg do Ice-T
Scotland - Alcoholics with red hair


could You explain me that????

Humour is a very personal thing. Some will like jokes that are over a limit, others will hate that.

I think it really depends of the person and place things are said. For example a public figure should be careful of the things he/she says, a comedian on stage can say everything and you paid to go to that show.

EDIT: this is a Dutch comedian in London, he is kinda famous in the Netherlands for freedom of speech, video Hans Teeuwen in London
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Here you have a better idea of what he says about freedom of speech:
Hans Teeuwen debate muslim women Netherlands (eng subs)

really interesting :)
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http://online.sokker.org/forum_topic.php?ID_forum=1260&ID_topic=2175082&pg=1

2010-02-04 13:11:15
rtg do Ice-T
Scotland - Alcoholics with red hair


could You explain me that????

someone call me? Hang on be back in a minute im away to inject my whisky.

There was a comedian called Russ Abbott if I am not mistaken that used to do a sketch as a Sct with Red Hair and in a Kilt....he was always drunk. The Scots do love their drink though like the Irish - its something they are proud of....and also battering the English at every given opprtunity. ;)

Rtg said that and hes the biggest drunk in Sokker I reckon, if you ask me though I think he is probably a balding red head. ;)

would be nice if You explain me the difference beetwen Your post and post of KŻ

it is very strange to me that person who write such things may ban other user for imho very similar text

looks like hypocrisy, don't You think?

could it be interpreted as an insult by other Scots?

No, its is simlar to when Black People call eachother the N word.....if a white person says it it makes it a totally different matter. Rtg is a Scot and therefore he is taking the mickey out of himself.

It is not hypocritical as the KZ post was nothing to do with taking the mickey out of himself. A persons history also means that things are taken a certain way. RTG is a grumpry Scot to me and always will be. ;)

And he says the same sort of thing about me, but with the Scot bit. ;)

Fwiw i would accept red hair on my shiny scalp.

mate you are clearly wearing the wrong glasses. Mocking each other is 100% totally different to what has happened here - you clearly cannot see that - maybe you also have the exact extremist views of KZ. Extremist views no matter who they are are NO joke.

you want freedom of speech in all of these extremist views?

simply.....

go find another site.
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you clearly cannot see that - maybe you also have the exact extremist views of KZ. Extremist views no matter who they are are NO joke.

I spent a lot of time with him on forums also on political matters and i can very easy prove that any part of his text in interview wasn't his real opinions about nations, religion etc. I can give links to his certain posts and translate them If You wish.

moreover, he very often loughs at antymuslim or racist atitude. in real he is tottaly oposite to what he wrote and that's why i telling over and over again that all this was a large dose of blach humor!

But will this change anything?

I doubt because You're fixed on Your first impresion and You're seems to be deaf on logical arguments.

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logical arguments? dont make me laugh.

You have your view and that is what you believe to be true. anyone elses view is therefore completely wrong.

ME? Yes im just as bad as you are - i 100% believe that those comments were disgusting and will NEVER change my view on that.

I was 1 week away from being in those twin towers - i thank my lucky stars that i was home and safe when those thousands of innocent people got murdered (or at least they are innocent in my eyes maybe not yours or others)

We will never agree on anything as you are clearly right wing and im left.

I really dont see any point in this topic at all as there are about 6 MAX people in here who think that they are right to believe that what KZ said was fine and dandy and will NEVER change their mind or admit that there is wrong doing in it at all.

This topic is now 100% useless
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well - You stated that he talked seriously in his interview. I can prove easily that he wasn't.
it's simply oposite to You text about alcoholics

moreover, i paste his text to around 20 people so far by sk-mail and only 2 so far answered me that he get to far

ask polish admins what is the perception of this situation in polish community. it's tottaly incomprehensible for most of users as we all known his uniqe speech style and sense of humor

bye i aint speaking in here no more - talking to a brick wall gets really monotonous after a while

er, lets just say we in the UK have an opinion on what is acceptible and what is not. Some guys from eastern europe seem to like the sadistic shock humour but that is their choice. But on international forums, there are all sorts of people reading so anybody posting should take care what they write.