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You wrote about PZPR, not about KPP.

But, let's go... KPP was destroyed in 1938.

What's funny you want to write next?:)

Forget not, that the Communist Party of Poland (KPP, until 1925 the Communist Workers' Party of Poland) was a conspiratorial organization of the radical Left. And what about proletariat?

Yes, it was a prorussian movement of radical left, part of Comintern. And it was dissolved in 1938.

I don't really see your point here, what are you referring to?

were brought to Poland after Russia invaded Poland...they were traitors - they STILL were POLISH !!!

yes, Polish traitors working for Russia

again, what's your point?

We are speaking about left radicals-like parties, the name does not matter, but the ideology they adopted. It can be KPP, PZPR, or other. The wolf changes its hair, but not the character.

They were all communists.

National Socialist parties were not forbidden in Europe at that times. In 20' when thez were voted in Germany, the majority of voters didn;t know what it would lead to.

So you cannot say "all germans were aware what they voted" . Electorat of a country is mostly represented of uneducated people and they are easy to influence. The majority of them were sorry to have the party elected, when it came out what they did.

But it was too late, like in Poland with the communists, when the people "considered" soviets had "eliberated" the polish democratic state.
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germans are like other nations, they believed darwin and hitler doctrines..superior race, all kind of stuff
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And you fail to see the difference. Poland was conquered and ruled by Russia via proxy, given as a gift to Stalin at Yalta.

Germany chose their rulers.

The fact that they were stupid, or didn't bother to read and get to know who they voted for and joined does not make them innocent.

And again, over 8 million Germans not only voted for them, but joined them on their own will, with majority joining NSDAP after 1933. In '33 they had ~2m members, in '39 ~5m, in '44 [!!] over 8 million.

sorry was a verb to past

Anyway, we are drifting offtopic from the subject that was discussed.

The question is simple, do you think that calling Auschtwitz. etc. Polish death camps is moral and fair?
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Here's last 5 pages summarized in a polandball comic:

http://i.imgur.com/XLAW4Ys.png

That escalated quickly :D

LOL, thanks :))

I dont wanna open a pandora box, but what's the fuss about this "polish death camps", where does it come from? It probably refers the geographical location and not the people who built and ran them.

German TV/website ZDF every year uses this term to describe Auschwitz and other death camps. Every time they are sued and go to court and they lose. Yet they still call them 'Polish death camps'. They did it again couple of days ago, that's why there's the Polish action to deny that these were Polish camps.

Weren't they just Nazi death camps? Not German, not Polish but NAZI

And again, over 8 million Germans not only voted for them, but joined them on their own will, with majority joining NSDAP after 1933. In '33 they had ~2m members, in '39 ~5m, in '44 [!!] over 8 million.

I dont think it was a free will :))) You can say whatever you want :D The same I can say that 99,9% in USSR or North Corea joined the communist party willingly. Noncense.

Well, subject to be discussed live, not on forum, ideas, opinions are different, sources are different, ones more, other less reliable. History is a subjective topic and written according to some mesquine interests.

I know one: every nation must learn from the past and not repeat the mistakes their forefathers had made. Do you think the Russians are proud of the totalitarist regime? Or Germans? Or Italians? No one does that.

Anyway what is done is done, but that does not mean we have to put the sign of equal between a historical past conjucture and the whole nation.

Now I have a spam question: how can one watch a sokker match on a smart TV set? I have opera installed, but it does not function. Shall I install some other browser? Or some media player, or similar? I have no idea.
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Weren't they just Nazi death camps? Not German, not Polish but NAZI

I'm fine with calling them Nazi death camps, I'm fine with calling them German Nazi death camps.

I'm not fine with calling them Polish death camps, that's what it is about.

@Kreator
Anyway what is done is done, but that does not mean we have to put the sign of equal between a historical past conjucture and the whole nation.

I don't do that. I have nothing against Germans, I actually like modern Germans. I've encountered them many times in Warsaw during my party years :p and it was nice to talk with them, even with 30+ Germans met in pubs etc. (though I must say that I had a completely different experience with Russians...)