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It is true however that Belgium had a rather large number of collaborators (more than in Poland). I have no problem with telling the truth about our history. I wonder why this small part of the truth cannot be mentioned to the Polish forum visitors?
nobody is denying that SOME small percentage of Poles did help them, so don't lie. it's not what's the problem here.
the problem is that these were NOT Polish death camps and calling them so is simply wrong and distasteful.
by your logic, if the death camps were Polish, then Belgium was a Nazi country, since some of Belgiums were collaborateurs.
nobody is denying that SOME small percentage of Poles did help them, so don't lie. it's not what's the problem here.
the problem is that these were NOT Polish death camps and calling them so is simply wrong and distasteful.
by your logic, if the death camps were Polish, then Belgium was a Nazi country, since some of Belgiums were collaborateurs.
In France, i never heard about "Polish deathcamps" only "Nazi deathcamps in Poland, France, Germany".
as I wrote...
Im not saying ruled by Poles, only that Nazis were between all nationalities, so there is no need to tell something about nation, all educated people know camps were Nazis, not german as official name of this state was Deutsches Reich to the period of 1943 and after it Großdeutsches Reich till 1945.
tell me, why do they insist on calling these death camps 'Polish'?
its same as call it German, it has nothing to do with Germany or Poland...
Im not saying ruled by Poles, only that Nazis were between all nationalities, so there is no need to tell something about nation, all educated people know camps were Nazis, not german as official name of this state was Deutsches Reich to the period of 1943 and after it Großdeutsches Reich till 1945.
tell me, why do they insist on calling these death camps 'Polish'?
its same as call it German, it has nothing to do with Germany or Poland...
the fact that someone agrees with you doesn't make his views rational and reasonable, it only makes them similar to your views. such statements are cheap shots, try to keep a decent level of discussion...
In France, i never heard about "Polish deathcamps" only "Nazi deathcamps in Poland, France, Germany".
Apparently nobody in France has any interest in falsing the history:)
In USA and Germany the term 'Polish deatchamps' is used very often in media...
@Din0
Im not saying ruled by Poles
...bit that's exactly what you wrote eariler.
all educated people know camps were Nazis
but not all people are educated, as you know. that's why we find it important to keep the situation clear.
its same as call it German, it has nothing to do with Germany or Poland...
but they don't call them German, they call them Polish, and again, why would they do that?
Apparently nobody in France has any interest in falsing the history:)
In USA and Germany the term 'Polish deatchamps' is used very often in media...
@Din0
Im not saying ruled by Poles
...bit that's exactly what you wrote eariler.
all educated people know camps were Nazis
but not all people are educated, as you know. that's why we find it important to keep the situation clear.
its same as call it German, it has nothing to do with Germany or Poland...
but they don't call them German, they call them Polish, and again, why would they do that?
It is true however that Belgium had a rather large number of collaborators (more than in Poland). I have no problem with telling the truth about our history. I wonder why this small part of the truth cannot be mentioned to the Polish forum visitors?
nobody is denying that SOME small percentage of Poles did help them, so don't lie. it's not what's the problem here.
the problem is that these were NOT Polish death camps and calling them so is simply wrong and distasteful.
by your logic, if the death camps were Polish, then Belgium was a Nazi country, since some of Belgiums were collaborateurs.
Well actually, 2 of your fellow countrymen (or women) were claiming not one Pole was involved. I demonstrated in earlier posts that this is not true. I even added the references.
I'm not calling the Polish death camps, I'm calling the Polish Nazi death camps because they were located on Polish ground. This is a pure geological distinction from the German Nazi death camps located in Germany at that time.
Concerning your last point: only thing to do is have a good laugh
nobody is denying that SOME small percentage of Poles did help them, so don't lie. it's not what's the problem here.
the problem is that these were NOT Polish death camps and calling them so is simply wrong and distasteful.
by your logic, if the death camps were Polish, then Belgium was a Nazi country, since some of Belgiums were collaborateurs.
Well actually, 2 of your fellow countrymen (or women) were claiming not one Pole was involved. I demonstrated in earlier posts that this is not true. I even added the references.
I'm not calling the Polish death camps, I'm calling the Polish Nazi death camps because they were located on Polish ground. This is a pure geological distinction from the German Nazi death camps located in Germany at that time.
Concerning your last point: only thing to do is have a good laugh
first of all read all posts, Im not personaly interested so I dont have to defend my oppinion and obtrude it to other users. You are living in Poland, you have your suroundings and media. Try to listen another users from different countries, in Czech rep. there is nothing as Polish death camps, never heard of it...
all educated people know camps were Nazis
but not all people are educated, as you know. that's why we find it important to keep the situation clear.
please save the world
Im not saying ruled by Poles
...bit that's exactly what you wrote eariler.
And yes, were Nazi camps, but there were ruled by Nazis what were Germans, Austrians, Czechs and even Polish, not all Polish were Jews ;)
can you read? ;)
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all educated people know camps were Nazis
but not all people are educated, as you know. that's why we find it important to keep the situation clear.
please save the world
Im not saying ruled by Poles
...bit that's exactly what you wrote eariler.
And yes, were Nazi camps, but there were ruled by Nazis what were Germans, Austrians, Czechs and even Polish, not all Polish were Jews ;)
can you read? ;)
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+1
In the Netherlands we had the same problem, NSB: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Movement_in_the_Netherlands
In the Netherlands we had deportation camps run by nazis, also Dutch nazi. A black page in our history. And even in 2017 people won't admit family was on the wrong side of history because of shame.
As far as I know all countries had these people supporting nazi Germany. But the holy Poland ofcourse didn't have these people. Only nowadays they have neo-nazis, not during WW2 :/
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In the Netherlands we had the same problem, NSB: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Movement_in_the_Netherlands
In the Netherlands we had deportation camps run by nazis, also Dutch nazi. A black page in our history. And even in 2017 people won't admit family was on the wrong side of history because of shame.
As far as I know all countries had these people supporting nazi Germany. But the holy Poland ofcourse didn't have these people. Only nowadays they have neo-nazis, not during WW2 :/
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Well actually, 2 of your fellow countrymen (or women) were claiming not one Pole was involved. I demonstrated in earlier posts that this is not true. I even added the references.
Wrong. Din0 wrote that Polish people ruled [as in: run] the death camps and that was not true.
I'm not calling the Polish death camps, I'm calling the Polish Nazi death camps because they were located on Polish ground. This is a pure geological distinction from the German Nazi death camps located in Germany at that time.
And you are wrong. When the deathcamps were built there was no longer Polish country, hence they could not be Polish even in geological point of view, do you agree?
Unless you think that Roman empire consisted of Belgium, France and Spain etc. :-)
Wrong. Din0 wrote that Polish people ruled [as in: run] the death camps and that was not true.
I'm not calling the Polish death camps, I'm calling the Polish Nazi death camps because they were located on Polish ground. This is a pure geological distinction from the German Nazi death camps located in Germany at that time.
And you are wrong. When the deathcamps were built there was no longer Polish country, hence they could not be Polish even in geological point of view, do you agree?
Unless you think that Roman empire consisted of Belgium, France and Spain etc. :-)
I didnt write it, so please, dont lie ;)
there was no Germany too, so why call it German? Hmm?
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there was no Germany too, so why call it German? Hmm?
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first of all read all posts, Im not personaly interested so I dont have to defend my oppinion and obtrude it to other users. You are living in Poland, you have your suroundings and media. Try to listen another users from different countries, in Czech rep. there is nothing as Polish death camps, never heard of it...
And I have nothing against Czech media. The whole situation revolves around US and German media.
And yes, were Nazi camps, but there were ruled by Nazis what were Germans, Austrians, Czechs and even Polish, not all Polish were Jews ;)
can you read? ;)
Yes, I can. And you wrote that Nazi Poles ruled the death camps. Which is absurd. This Polish scum worked there and helped the Nazis, but did not rule the death camps, that's the distinction you fail to see.
And I have nothing against Czech media. The whole situation revolves around US and German media.
And yes, were Nazi camps, but there were ruled by Nazis what were Germans, Austrians, Czechs and even Polish, not all Polish were Jews ;)
can you read? ;)
Yes, I can. And you wrote that Nazi Poles ruled the death camps. Which is absurd. This Polish scum worked there and helped the Nazis, but did not rule the death camps, that's the distinction you fail to see.
Well actually Poland never recognized german (I'm using German since it's easier then Oberreich blabla) reign, so it remained a sovereign state during all WWII. So yes, they were located on Polish ground