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2002/2003 Porto (C) 34 27 5 2 73(goals for) 26 +47 86 (2nd best scoring team)
2003/2004 Porto (C) 34 25 7 2 63(goals for) 19 +44 82 (best scoring team)
2004/2005 Chelsea (C) 38 29 8 1 72(goals for) 15 +57 95 (2nd best scoring team)
2005/2006 Chelsea (C) 38 29 4 5 72(goals for) 22 +50 91 (joint best scoring team)
2008/2009 Internazionale (C) 38 25 9 4 70 32 +38 84 (joint best scoring team)
2009/2010 Internazionale (C) 38 24 10 4 75 34 +41 82 (best scoring team)
2011/2012 Real Madrid 38 32 4 2 121 32 +89 100 (best scoring team)
2014/2015 Chelsea (C) 38 26 9 3 73 32 +41 87 (2nd best scoring team)
only taken his league winning sides into considerations... high goal scored values for a "bus" strategy manager O_O
Porto almost constantly bags 70+ goals per season. He arrived at Chelsea when there was money everywhere, bought anyone he wanted, and Ranieri left him a pretty good team also. I wont talk about Inter, those two seasons were cvasi non-combat since the biggest clubs were banned and lost some of their key players who arrived at Inter itself. Real Madrid also bags 100+ goals every season, its not a performance, and in Spain you wont survive just with wining the games, without a spectacular attacking football you get sacked pretty fast, wich he was eventually.
The only "performance" was that 2014-2015 season where he actually had some tough competitors.
Since his last 2015-2016 seazon at Chelsea and these almost two seasons with Mutd he doesnt show any attacking football. Its painful to watch Mutd with all that money spent on superstars. I've considered Mata and Martial the most technical players, and Rashford has been a revelation too. Now, all of them are cleaning the bench in favour of Sanchez and Tominay.
The only "performance" was that 2014-2015 season where he actually had some tough competitors.
Since his last 2015-2016 seazon at Chelsea and these almost two seasons with Mutd he doesnt show any attacking football. Its painful to watch Mutd with all that money spent on superstars. I've considered Mata and Martial the most technical players, and Rashford has been a revelation too. Now, all of them are cleaning the bench in favour of Sanchez and Tominay.
he doesnt show any attacking football.
kids and football fans like to see attacking football,
while experts like to see defending football and efficiency
kids and football fans like to see attacking football,
while experts like to see defending football and efficiency
Stick to your catenaccio and let us enjoy fast, attacking football
still remembering Ovrebo inciden
He's the one we don't talk about nor we say his name out loud :)
He's the one we don't talk about nor we say his name out loud :)
Stick to your catenaccio and let us enjoy fast, attacking football
wednsday juventus played 3 minutes vs totthenam and won. (and believe me, I'm not a juve fan!)
without running, without passing, without strenght etc.
That's only because of stupid tactic and strategic choices by totthenam, because you should be able to use your skill for the win, not only for useless offensive play.
Totthenam was very beautiful to watch? Yeah, maybe for some kid that only want to see dribbling and shots.
wednsday juventus played 3 minutes vs totthenam and won. (and believe me, I'm not a juve fan!)
without running, without passing, without strenght etc.
That's only because of stupid tactic and strategic choices by totthenam, because you should be able to use your skill for the win, not only for useless offensive play.
Totthenam was very beautiful to watch? Yeah, maybe for some kid that only want to see dribbling and shots.
kids and football fans like to see attacking football,
while experts like to see defending football and efficiency
Are there lots of experts there where you live? :)
while experts like to see defending football and efficiency
Are there lots of experts there where you live? :)
manutd was trailing (losing) 3-0 at half time from tottenham way back in 2001.. SAF got inside the locker at half time and said: "lads, it's tottenham" and got out...
manutd won 5-3.. so...
dudes... it's tottenham XDDD
@celski yea, I guess XD.. seen again "highlights" and still can't believe it XD
@marcozea I understand what you mean but everything you posted doesn't really have nothing to do with what I said..
out of 13 seasons, he won 8 championships with top goals scored or second best at worst.. you don't do that with defensive football..
so what if he had unlimited cash at chelsea? was it his fault that milano and juve "cheated" and got "relegated"? what was porto success when he left it?
my point is that he doesn't play attacking football, but that doesn't necessarily means that he plays defensive one..
except now with manutd where everything seems out of the place XDDD, SAF spoiled every manutd fan in the world XD..
manutd won 5-3.. so...
dudes... it's tottenham XDDD
@celski yea, I guess XD.. seen again "highlights" and still can't believe it XD
@marcozea I understand what you mean but everything you posted doesn't really have nothing to do with what I said..
out of 13 seasons, he won 8 championships with top goals scored or second best at worst.. you don't do that with defensive football..
so what if he had unlimited cash at chelsea? was it his fault that milano and juve "cheated" and got "relegated"? what was porto success when he left it?
my point is that he doesn't play attacking football, but that doesn't necessarily means that he plays defensive one..
except now with manutd where everything seems out of the place XDDD, SAF spoiled every manutd fan in the world XD..
What i was trying to say is that he had those golascore records while he had no notable competitor. Now when City and Utd are pumping money like there's no tomorrow, and Pool and Totenham growing fast too, he just couldnt fit in. Conte won the PL with practicly the same team he had. I have no clue what Utd are playing now, its like i was playing FM2018 and deployed all the players pointed by my assistant coach. Like a headless chicken.
Nontheless, tough i dont really like him, you are absolutely right, he is one of the best managers ever. But i kinda see him as the right guy at the right place. And now he's out of luck.
PS Loved the quote signs at "cheated" and "relegated" :)))
Nontheless, tough i dont really like him, you are absolutely right, he is one of the best managers ever. But i kinda see him as the right guy at the right place. And now he's out of luck.
PS Loved the quote signs at "cheated" and "relegated" :)))
hehehe, yea, we basically agree on everything XD.. manutd gameplay is very erratic, three years with moyes and lvg were practically wasted because their very different view on strategy/tactic combined with impossible mission to replace SAF.. add to the equation bad transfer policy (which was somewhat evident even in the end of SAF era)..
there are some glimpses that they are improving (they did win some silver last couple of years, second at the moment) but I don't enjoy watching them like I used to in the late 00' :D
but maybe I was younger and more easily entertained, dunno :)
XDDD
p.s. sorry to go off topic from spam hahahhahha
there are some glimpses that they are improving (they did win some silver last couple of years, second at the moment) but I don't enjoy watching them like I used to in the late 00' :D
but maybe I was younger and more easily entertained, dunno :)
XDDD
p.s. sorry to go off topic from spam hahahhahha
You would think a crazy scary idiot like Duarte won't find any support in the western world with our human right norms and standards. Wrong ........
Donald Trump advocates death penalty for drug dealers in rambling speech
He confirmed reports that that he had been floating the idea of imposing a death penalty on drug dealers by a long discourse where he praised the criminal justice system in China.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/11/donald-trump-advocates-death-penalty-for-drug-dealers-in-rambling-speech
Praising the criminal justice system of China .... okay :/ Praising a country known for the human rights, NO human rights that is.
What's next, praising Turkey's government for it's control over freedom of speech and free media?
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Donald Trump advocates death penalty for drug dealers in rambling speech
He confirmed reports that that he had been floating the idea of imposing a death penalty on drug dealers by a long discourse where he praised the criminal justice system in China.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/11/donald-trump-advocates-death-penalty-for-drug-dealers-in-rambling-speech
Praising the criminal justice system of China .... okay :/ Praising a country known for the human rights, NO human rights that is.
What's next, praising Turkey's government for it's control over freedom of speech and free media?
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Opinions are good, but it's usually better to be a bit more assertive in sharing them :-p
This IS an international and open forum, you know...
This IS an international and open forum, you know...
I don't get it.. why the crap you continue posting stupid politic things in this threads? politic and religions are sensitive subject here.
you should stop.
thanks!
you should stop.
thanks!
Well, in this case if someone disagrees with me, they should move to Philippines, China, Turkey, or some other great country with such great human rights and freedoms and find out for themselves.
Why being sensitive about it? It is what it is, everyone knows it. Or some governments are hiding free info with censorship and propaganda. In that case this info is new for them, finding out they don't live in a free world. I'm sorry for them! My advise, IF you have the right to vote, vote different next time. Vote for your freedom, your rights and your future! :)
This is info, not something to be sensitive about or hide, just data:
List of freedom indices
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_freedom_indices
Press Freedom Index
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_Freedom_Index
World Index of Moral Freedom
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Index_of_Moral_Freedom
Democracy Index
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index
Economic Freedom of the World
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Freedom_of_the_World
EDIT: you should stop.
Is this a question, wish or command? What is it?
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Why being sensitive about it? It is what it is, everyone knows it. Or some governments are hiding free info with censorship and propaganda. In that case this info is new for them, finding out they don't live in a free world. I'm sorry for them! My advise, IF you have the right to vote, vote different next time. Vote for your freedom, your rights and your future! :)
This is info, not something to be sensitive about or hide, just data:
List of freedom indices
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_freedom_indices
Press Freedom Index
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_Freedom_Index
World Index of Moral Freedom
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Index_of_Moral_Freedom
Democracy Index
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index
Economic Freedom of the World
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Freedom_of_the_World
EDIT: you should stop.
Is this a question, wish or command? What is it?
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