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Not when it comes to Poland. What you are showing AGAIN and AGAIN is the paranoid 'collectively guilt' of Poland during WW2, which is the basis of history denying reality.
From a writer of the article below (2014!):
If I was given a dollar for every time a casual conversation in the west about Poland has turned within minutes to Polish antisemitism, I would be a millionaire. But equally, if I was given a euro for every time I have heard or read in Poland some piece of contorted, resentful denial about the true extent of Polish antisemitism, before, during and after the second world war, I would also be a rich man.
Now we have reached this once almost unimaginable better place in the relations between, and the historical, cultural and individual intermingling of, Poles and Jews. Why has it come about?
Only when Poland was itself no longer a victim of history – stuck behind the iron curtain, under Soviet domination – could a larger part of Polish society begin to face up to the excruciating truth that a victim can also be a victimiser.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/01/polish-jewish-relations-warsaw-museum-history-polish-jews
Strange how this process has been stopped and even reversed in less then 4 years because of a government actively inciting nationalistic propaganda.
EDIT: But I think this text will most probably not even make a small difference in your perception about the truth.
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From a writer of the article below (2014!):
If I was given a dollar for every time a casual conversation in the west about Poland has turned within minutes to Polish antisemitism, I would be a millionaire. But equally, if I was given a euro for every time I have heard or read in Poland some piece of contorted, resentful denial about the true extent of Polish antisemitism, before, during and after the second world war, I would also be a rich man.
Now we have reached this once almost unimaginable better place in the relations between, and the historical, cultural and individual intermingling of, Poles and Jews. Why has it come about?
Only when Poland was itself no longer a victim of history – stuck behind the iron curtain, under Soviet domination – could a larger part of Polish society begin to face up to the excruciating truth that a victim can also be a victimiser.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/01/polish-jewish-relations-warsaw-museum-history-polish-jews
Strange how this process has been stopped and even reversed in less then 4 years because of a government actively inciting nationalistic propaganda.
EDIT: But I think this text will most probably not even make a small difference in your perception about the truth.
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Charles, go find yourself a hobby. And while you're doing that, try to find out where your "ignore" function lies.
I vote all polish and dutch guys off this forum! Or topic at least!
I just posted a serious, non offensive comment. What is wrong with it?
I understand your 'ignore' comment. But maybe you can also tell those other people to keep stuff to themselves and not use the Sokker forum for it. I'm just a free to post a comment as they are, and more important, they are just as responsible for how fun Sokker is as I am.
And Sokker is a hobby, just as my garden is (now that I have one), watching movies, etc.
I understand your 'ignore' comment. But maybe you can also tell those other people to keep stuff to themselves and not use the Sokker forum for it. I'm just a free to post a comment as they are, and more important, they are just as responsible for how fun Sokker is as I am.
And Sokker is a hobby, just as my garden is (now that I have one), watching movies, etc.
I guess he likes his meat medium rare... or not O_o
number of people that don't know how to make barbecue is too damn high!
people using petroleum/gas/fire-starters for barbecue - weaknesses disgust me!
number of people that don't know how to make barbecue is too damn high!
people using petroleum/gas/fire-starters for barbecue - weaknesses disgust me!
Only Dutsch? Or all flemish speakers? :P Long live francophones :D
I'm always surprised about people using gasoline and bbq's. I mean, by now they should know that is not really a smart idea :/
And indeed, take your time bbq-ing, staring the fire is part of the fun.
And indeed, take your time bbq-ing, staring the fire is part of the fun.
I really wonder what the joke was that made both of them laugh.
That's why I've asked Langes... he could be the victim of his own "joke" too.
The guy in the middle looks like he wants to make babies with putin.