Subject: Ready for the most racist tournament ever?

Allthough the clubs in the Netherlands would never have allowed this banner in the stadium, I do not think the Dutch government or state prosecuter would have taken action either.
It shows a huge lack of respect, but that does not mean using the word "Jihad" is against the law per se.

(Besides that responsibility for public order is mainly with the Major and not the national government....)
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probably saw this sign when Hapoel Tel Aviv played in Warsaw
i was at that game and it was great.

what's wrong with "jihad legia" banner? now i should say you hate arab people so you are bad and all other users should write that jews are bad people, because you don't like arab people.
if there would be "shema israel" it would be ok?


and what about hapoel choreo at the game in tel aviv? choreo showed hammer and sickle - it's clear reference to the murderous ideology. why don't you mention this, huh?

Legia should at least be excluded from European football with that banner.
no offence, but you are fucked up?!
i'm asking again - WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT CHOREO!?
does it offend anyone?
damn it...
"jihad legia" was a reference to our fanaticism and you say it's something bad!
you probably will say "yeyeyeyayyay but it was on the game vs. team from israel"
okay, was it, but... what's wrong? way of pissing off our opponents, nothing more.
did it say something about hate, killing people or about jews?
NO
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Well it is obviously a provocation, and there was no need to do so. If you don't see that I can't help you.

Sorry all, I ment the Polish FA:)

@dumb : I believe too that it start with education, the problam is whan you see the police cheap close his eyes and allow the nazi salut and after claim that they were only pointing towards the rival fans

Jihad is not against Jaws only, it for all of the Islamic people to rule the world and make every one Moslems, but that nit the point, It was meant to bring politics into the game!

and what about hapoel choreo at the game in tel aviv? choreo showed hammer and sickle - it's clear reference to the murderous ideology. why don't you mention this, huh?

The hammer and sickle is part of Hapoel Historical roots, hapoel is called in Israel : the communist and it have nothing to do against other crowds!!!

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lol, u complain about bbc geographical knowledge???

fans in the match u pointed out were singing that Brazil is in Africa... - bbc at least got the continent right

as I've mentioned before, these people are idiots, therefore I'm not surprised with their lack of knowledge and I wouldn't trust in what they say

Now, BBC - they should be a bit more educated, eh...?

You make really silly remarks, seriously.

Also, it was 6 years ago. Nothing of such type happened since then in Poland.
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BTW.... Did you know that hapoel ultras are part of the ANTIFA group?

Nothing to be proud of to be honest, Antifa are usually same scum as racists and nationalists, just on the other side of ideaology

i'm asking again - WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT CHOREO!?

Of course. The Jihad-banner was not meant to hugely insult the opponents. Of course. Like 'Sieg Heil' has nothing to do with Nazism. Of course.

did it say something about hate, killing people or about jews?

I don't think you know how 'Jihad' is used and interpreted by most people.
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Well, I guess Hapoel supporters didn't know how we interpret hammer and sickle in Poland...

Not exactly (and I will always prefer anarchists that don't involved violence in their ideals) :)

I agree that that's totally unacceptable too and Hapoel should be punished for that. Doesn't change anything aboutthe Jihad Legia banner though. I just reacted on that photo.

Jihad is not against Jaws only
but lol
i wrote clearly - word jihad was a reference to our (legia fans) fanaticism

The hammer and sickle is part of Hapoel Historical roots, hapoel is called in Israel : the communist and it have nothing to do agaiinst other crowds!!!

and what?
you think it's some argument? it don't bother me - nevermind why, but it shows references to the ideology that made millions of people die, starve, suffer and be oppressed!

i don't want to defend people heiling at the games etc; i know also poles were killed and tortured due to nazis, but my point is why everybody says only about this side?! is it any worse than communism?! should people praising communist murders have more or better rights?! tell me!


@rubinho:
I don't think you know how 'Jihad' is used and interpreted by most people.
uhm, so important is what people think, not what it really is?
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why everybody says only about this side?!

Not everybody. Most people reject both sides. Poland got screwed during WWII and after WWII. No doubt. That's not the issue though.

I can not say if they know or not, but its in every match in our home field.

we don't support Stalinism but we do support Karl Marks pure communism

I can tell you that there were suggestion to make a contra banner with an airplane crash, but most of the crowd didn't allow it .........

uhm, so important is what people think, not what it really is?

Like I said, it's not always the truth that matters. I know Jihad is not 'holy war' like some people think, but that doesn't matter. It's about respect for your opponents. Using a banner with 'Jihad Legia' against an Israeli team or using a banner of communism against a Polish team is a total lack of respect and should not be tolerated in football stadiums. Simple.