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Subject: NEWS AROUND THE WORLD

2012-09-11 00:42:11
And this one has the perfect answers to NowhwreMan and posts of others, also to prevent the whole discussion starts all over again: 'Ten big media lies' about Israel by Michel Collon (a Belgian journalist and author of the book “Israel, let’s talk about it”)

I Stopped reading this out of disgust.
To clarify that: these were opinions, no facts at all.
Honestly this is really! bad research on the one hand and even worse propaganda on the other hand.
Frankly honest, to agree with this you have to be an ..... and have no idea about history, human life, religion, geography, knowledge of international law, knowledge of a countries budget spending. Well basically, if I would loose 99% of my knowledge I would still be amazed how wrong these few sentences were.
You should discuss something else, THIS is to complicated for you.
2012-09-11 00:56:15
are you going to talk about the same thing? there are more news in the world
2012-09-11 06:46:49
And this one has the perfect answers to NowhwreMan and posts of others, also to prevent the whole discussion starts all over again: 'Ten big media lies' about Israel by Michel Collon (a Belgian journalist and author of the book “Israel, let’s talk about it”)

You can do better than that. Your "perfect answers" are insult to intelligence. They do not prevent the whole discussion because they are just trivial usual nonsense.
Nonetheless - it does not even refer to my arguments.

I am sorry to see that the whole thread was wiped, because I later responded further to your solid one sided opinionated argument.

And for those who are so caring for 10 year old children health. The place where they were injured is an unquestionalble military compound (even according to the Palestinians). This is a cynical human sheild. That place was not a playground.

2012-09-11 08:03:39
This is a cynical human sheild. That place was not a playground.

This is not any argument for me. NoWhereMan, have you kids ?
If they use kids as human shields, they deserve to be wipe out from Palestina (attackes I mean) and if there is god they had to feel paint for all their unearthy life in the hell....
but you can not just send that bombs or what it was with words, we know there are kids but we dont care it is military zone.
2012-09-11 15:53:11
It is difficult for me to clearly establish what you meant, however just in case:

Israel does not just send bombs sporadically.
It's hopefully established that we can protect ourselves. However the only option left for is to attack known military targets with very precise weapons. This is what Israel does, and there where many cases that pilots refrained from shooting when there was an actual doubt.

I don't think that any other army is keeping similar standards.

And yes - Palestinians are using children as human shields. Some are proud to say that their children are trained to become suicide bombers. What is the difference?


2012-09-11 17:47:33
You can do better than that.

I can indeed do better then this and discuss all points one by one (and more), but the question is if this is really necessary. The thing is that most, if not all, of only these points are almost always used by those who are pro-israel and that should make people think, why is this? Are we talking about propagated ideas?

The funny thing is that I can show you exactly the same happens when creationists discuss evolution: Youtube - Top Ten Creationist Arguments.

You see what I mean?
2012-09-11 17:50:47
i am not a great writer, but here some facts about why israel have the rights about those lands.

http://www.youtube.com/v/dmV1ffKP0ms
2012-09-11 17:53:57
You cant compare those 2 things. Everyone is talking there own case up . They are both wrong anyone who says someting else is talking propaganda , face it !
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2012-09-11 18:04:52
I think it's a really good comparison. The news we see is almost always one-sided, the other side of the story you really have to look up yourself, that's already a bit strange. I have seen some changes the past years in the news and it has become a little bit less one-sided, but still a lot is.
2012-09-11 18:08:18
finally i am with you. the news in the 90 % dont tell all the story.
2012-09-11 20:08:34
Look, very shortly ... I dont know how to solve it, imho it is "unsolvable" now. But I am not gonna close my eyes when I see such a bad news every week.
You came to that area and you had to know that it is not very good place for peace, so solve it. I dont know how, but solve it.
2012-09-11 21:04:04
only a detail, this attack of israel to the terrorism (yes children dont must play where weapon is coming to bad hands) come after rockets that were sended to civilian on israel, so dont be so naive, you can better.
2012-09-11 21:20:51
And why do they shoot those rockets .....?
2012-09-11 21:42:48
Because the like to kill jews.
2012-09-11 21:45:42
ppfff ... are you trying to be funny or to give the most dumb answer?
2012-09-11 22:01:37
The way they dance and scream like little children when they do kill one is actually the reason I think that.