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Because Bosnia wasn't islamic nation so he have to be imigrant.
Man do you know the HISTORY ????
If you do, then you should visit a doctor or something, but if you dont then I will tell you that "crazy turks" :) (Ottomans) take Bosnia, Serbia, Croatia (well the whole Balkan in fact) 550 years ago.. hey its 550 years.. even before world war 1... even before "modern world", so how can we Bosnian muslims be imigrants if we are here for a 550 years??
Please stop blaming yourself!
(you may be wondering why only in Bosnia stayed Islam after Turks, but in Croatia mostly people are Christians and in Serbia are Orthodox... its easy to explain, before Turks, Bosnians were not "using" Christian neither Orthodox religion, they had its own religion which was similiar to Islam so thats why Islam stayed in Bosnia after all these years)
Man do you know the HISTORY ????
If you do, then you should visit a doctor or something, but if you dont then I will tell you that "crazy turks" :) (Ottomans) take Bosnia, Serbia, Croatia (well the whole Balkan in fact) 550 years ago.. hey its 550 years.. even before world war 1... even before "modern world", so how can we Bosnian muslims be imigrants if we are here for a 550 years??
Please stop blaming yourself!
(you may be wondering why only in Bosnia stayed Islam after Turks, but in Croatia mostly people are Christians and in Serbia are Orthodox... its easy to explain, before Turks, Bosnians were not "using" Christian neither Orthodox religion, they had its own religion which was similiar to Islam so thats why Islam stayed in Bosnia after all these years)
Every religion teach its people good things.
it is the human fault if he became a bad person.
so you must not mix between religion and human being.
you can find every where, none of any religion tell his follower to do bad things.
so, do not hate any religion. but please hate the human who did bad things. about why he act not proper, not same like what his religion teach him, that because he is fail to do the right things.
there is evil who test our faith to God. if we lose our faith to God, than the evil win. what ever you see about bad things, that because they are not faithfull to the God. Evil win on their heart. some time, we must see the background why a situation happened. what is the base so this happened. by understanding that background, we can value an act, it is bad or it is good, it is proper or it is improper.
about your quote of Qur'an, i am not sure the meaning is like it's said. and i am not sure that it is real like that on arab language. because i usually hear there is a note according to letter blablabla paragraph bbbb, then the contents.
and i apreciate you open this topic. so many user can read here and they can start looking for information, what is Islam. Is that really Islam religion so bad? And when they have understand about the true Islam religion, i am afraid i must say thank you so much to you, because they will follow islam by they own heart.
and about you said you live in free country, it is almost true. but that is not 100% free. Because you have norm to obey. because in your country still has Police to keep order, to protect people from bad things. so you are not free 100%.
and from youtube you show, moeslim population can grow up double than europe people, that man on youtube forget something,
if moeslim on europe can have many child, why europe native people cannot do the same? why do not do the same? make child a lot.
other ways, if you afraid moeslim can have child a lot but you are not able to make child as much as muslim people can, there is other way, the video said they are imigrant. are imigrant is a citizen of a country? (i do not know the law in europe for this). if the imigrant is the citizen, government can make a rule. a family only can have 1 child. so, the population growth can be decrease.
so for this worrying things, it will be suitable if you propose to your government then you announce here. except you want to looking for a petition and will give it to your country government or to European Union.
sorry if i have wrong in my sentences above.
overall i like this topic. every one can start to learn islam. and try to find the true of islam teaching then find out is that islam religion are bad religion or not.
and i apreciate again, this topic grow so fast. :) hot topic yeah. :)
it is the human fault if he became a bad person.
so you must not mix between religion and human being.
you can find every where, none of any religion tell his follower to do bad things.
so, do not hate any religion. but please hate the human who did bad things. about why he act not proper, not same like what his religion teach him, that because he is fail to do the right things.
there is evil who test our faith to God. if we lose our faith to God, than the evil win. what ever you see about bad things, that because they are not faithfull to the God. Evil win on their heart. some time, we must see the background why a situation happened. what is the base so this happened. by understanding that background, we can value an act, it is bad or it is good, it is proper or it is improper.
about your quote of Qur'an, i am not sure the meaning is like it's said. and i am not sure that it is real like that on arab language. because i usually hear there is a note according to letter blablabla paragraph bbbb, then the contents.
and i apreciate you open this topic. so many user can read here and they can start looking for information, what is Islam. Is that really Islam religion so bad? And when they have understand about the true Islam religion, i am afraid i must say thank you so much to you, because they will follow islam by they own heart.
and about you said you live in free country, it is almost true. but that is not 100% free. Because you have norm to obey. because in your country still has Police to keep order, to protect people from bad things. so you are not free 100%.
and from youtube you show, moeslim population can grow up double than europe people, that man on youtube forget something,
if moeslim on europe can have many child, why europe native people cannot do the same? why do not do the same? make child a lot.
other ways, if you afraid moeslim can have child a lot but you are not able to make child as much as muslim people can, there is other way, the video said they are imigrant. are imigrant is a citizen of a country? (i do not know the law in europe for this). if the imigrant is the citizen, government can make a rule. a family only can have 1 child. so, the population growth can be decrease.
so for this worrying things, it will be suitable if you propose to your government then you announce here. except you want to looking for a petition and will give it to your country government or to European Union.
sorry if i have wrong in my sentences above.
overall i like this topic. every one can start to learn islam. and try to find the true of islam teaching then find out is that islam religion are bad religion or not.
and i apreciate again, this topic grow so fast. :) hot topic yeah. :)
if moeslim on europe can have many child, why europe native people cannot do the same? why do not do the same? make child a lot.
you make as stupid comments here as santone.
why muslims [some of them] make so many children? because they rely on social help, they don't work at all or work illegally. social houses, social money each month etc.
natives try to plan their lifes and know that having children is a BIG financial burden...so since many years 'natives' plan a 2+1/2+2 type of marriage...two adults, one child, at most 2 children
therefore 2 natives become 1 native, while 2 immigrants can become even 4, 6 or 8.
take a group of 10 people and assume 2+1 and 2+4.
10 natives become 5 natives in next generation.
10 immigrants become 40 immigrants in next generation.
of course it is oversimplified and overgeneralised, but it shows the 'clue' of the problem.
you make as stupid comments here as santone.
why muslims [some of them] make so many children? because they rely on social help, they don't work at all or work illegally. social houses, social money each month etc.
natives try to plan their lifes and know that having children is a BIG financial burden...so since many years 'natives' plan a 2+1/2+2 type of marriage...two adults, one child, at most 2 children
therefore 2 natives become 1 native, while 2 immigrants can become even 4, 6 or 8.
take a group of 10 people and assume 2+1 and 2+4.
10 natives become 5 natives in next generation.
10 immigrants become 40 immigrants in next generation.
of course it is oversimplified and overgeneralised, but it shows the 'clue' of the problem.
hehehe.. that is only another solution. :D
other solution is, let government announce a rule like i said next.
all is in the each government hand as the rullers.
and as a citizen, person to person, neighbour to neighbour, i think we all know what to do.
other solution is, let government announce a rule like i said next.
all is in the each government hand as the rullers.
and as a citizen, person to person, neighbour to neighbour, i think we all know what to do.
we need laws that forbid xtrem religious berhaviours
like , you dont wanna eat pork? fine. But dont do proselitism about this
you dont wanna use condmos? do oral sex? fine. But dont do proselitism
Centurys ago the religion of us made many crazy bad things, we have learnt and now people is not longer religious. We dont need to fall on the same mistake again.
like , you dont wanna eat pork? fine. But dont do proselitism about this
you dont wanna use condmos? do oral sex? fine. But dont do proselitism
Centurys ago the religion of us made many crazy bad things, we have learnt and now people is not longer religious. We dont need to fall on the same mistake again.
if moeslim on europe can have many child, why europe native people cannot do the same? why do not do the same? make child a lot.
Muslim can legally have 4 wifes, christians don't. You see?
Wooow borkos, trudno mi to napisać ale zgadzam się z tobą.
Muslim can legally have 4 wifes, christians don't. You see?
Wooow borkos, trudno mi to napisać ale zgadzam się z tobą.
But this is 0.1% of Christians in Europe, or maybe more.
Muslim can legally have 4 wifes, christians don't. You see?
Ah, apparently the laws in many European countries has already been changed and polygamy became legal without me knowing it .... Are you really that dumb or just a liar?
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Ah, apparently the laws in many European countries has already been changed and polygamy became legal without me knowing it .... Are you really that dumb or just a liar?
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You can't have 4 wives in Europe.
Anyway you don't need to marry a woman to make kids with her [unless you are muslim, they supposedly can't have sex with unmarried women].
Anyway you don't need to marry a woman to make kids with her [unless you are muslim, they supposedly can't have sex with unmarried women].
so how can we Bosnian muslims be imigrants if we are here for a 550 years??
mehhh..if you convert 1000000 years ago for him you would be imigrant..
@santone Muslim can legally have 4 wifes, christians don't. You see?
in Islam men are the one who must protect thier wifes, help them a lot..and you will see a lot of wifes who are not working..and because of that there is a lot of childrens in muslim familys..wife is worring about house and childrens..husband is working hard and feed his family..but also you can see that both parents are working..in this modern and fast life there is just less and less childrens....
mehhh..if you convert 1000000 years ago for him you would be imigrant..
@santone Muslim can legally have 4 wifes, christians don't. You see?
in Islam men are the one who must protect thier wifes, help them a lot..and you will see a lot of wifes who are not working..and because of that there is a lot of childrens in muslim familys..wife is worring about house and childrens..husband is working hard and feed his family..but also you can see that both parents are working..in this modern and fast life there is just less and less childrens....
If he actually believes the news he sees on tv is his world and not just a tiny part of the real world, well, then history lessons most probably won't help. It is a matter of intelligence, or in his case, the lack of it and lessons won't change a thing. The fact that he thinks it is the truth and even make up things on the way shows it all :/
of course it is oversimplified and overgeneralised, but it shows the 'clue' of the problem.
It's the word 'problem' that should be between quotation marks. The problem is the welfare state that is giving social help. The problem is not that Muslims get more children in general.
It's the word 'problem' that should be between quotation marks. The problem is the welfare state that is giving social help. The problem is not that Muslims get more children in general.
And we are back to your subject again. It is already a nonsense topic so go ahead :/
You're an immigrant, what do you know?