Subject: European Union

And I'm not engaged :p

and what you know about the hungarian law to judge?
only one sentence?


read it before judge over hungary. france has national media policy too? :O


this "20% crimes in news" is valid only for the 3 national tv. in hungary there arent digital broadcasting, so the national media policy distribute the three frequency. they have some aspect, what should the channel accomplish. this is the reason that they regulate the news. (as i told you the two commercial channel broadcast only crimes in the news. WTF? the goverment try to handle without saying they have to say about politics or crimes. ITS ONLY ABOUT TOPIC, NOT ABOUT THE CONTENT!)


i hate the arrogent how the western europeans who dont know anything about hungray pass judge stuffs what about they dont know anything.
have you ever heard something about double standard? you are doing it right now...
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Finally someone who understands my POV.


okay, finally you have agreed that every media is regulated...
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from rubinho: And my point is that there shouldn't be a media authority at all.

so whats your point my friend?

should be or not should be regulated the media?

leave rubinho talk alone! he understands himself perfectly! btw, he's the only one who does it. where is an argument and the general opinion goes one way , he goes the other way. nothing to do.

i perfectly agree on controlling some of the news content(the part containing violent acts and their results). we are christians( not only the christians think the same) and we should not tollerate that brainless attitude of presenting blood, crime and violence on news.

so i propose to ignore rubinho and his poor quality opinions.

thank you, thats all.
that sentence try to reduce the violence in the news.


as i told, i dont like this law, but not because what about rubinho say.
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anyway: in france the president of the state (actually sarkozy) nomnaite the prsident of the tv. is it correct?

where is the free and balanced media?
so france should nothing to say...

i agree with you, because i don't want to cahnge channel when news starts, to prevent that my six year daughter, present in the room, sees/hears some horrible things.

...about rubinho, that's my opinion, and i won't change it.
in his case i would be gratefull if devs implement the IGNORE button!

Lol. First of all: I'm not a christian. Not a lot of Belgians are christians btw, only 8% of the Belgian population identifies himself as catholic, there are almost no protestants. So I don't see what religion has to do with this.

And because you disagree with me, you should ignore me? I guess that's your opinion on democracy, not mine. You just don't understand me. And I've noticed that Eastern Europeans never understand me. And this doesn't mean you're better then us or we're better, it just means we have a total different opinion. If you want to ignore me for that, that's your right, but it would be ignorant and pathetic.

And yes, I want a media authority that controls if the commercials follow the law, but not one that controls what topics are discussed on the news.

Btw, Hungarian Prime Minister has said that Hungary will change the law if EU asks for it.

Btw, Hungarian Prime Minister has said that Hungary will change the law if EU asks for it.

yes he said it, if other states is going to change their media law too... because the hungarian goverment cut this stupid law from the french, german and holland media law.

and i know that this storm will quiet down soon. the EU will critise only one important sentence: the hungarian goverment delay the installation of the digital broadcasting. or maybe some other unimportant sentence.
and the other parts of this stupid law will be leaved untouched. i mean the political side of this law. our media policy was shaped as the french one...

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Belgian media says that he would suggest France etc. change their media law too, but that Hungary will change its law if EU asks for it, even if France etc. don't change theirs.

Well, I understand why the commercial televisions forgot the politics in the news - if they give chance to speak to the opposition, they will be accused of "being unbalanced" and "left-liberal", "communist" etc. - you should know that, you're living here too... and if they only makes reports with the government, they'll be the same as the public media, which is "balanced" currently with that 83% rate of the Fidesz-politicians.

They don't want to get in trouble, and Hungarian politics means always trouble for the media.

edit: oh, I forgot something: the governments' translation of the law is missing some paragraphs. Like the one about the postponement of the digital broadcasting or the one that says the new council can't punish anybody until July 1st 2011...
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if this is true, as Zastarovje said, I mean this is the major problem.

- we have a new "media authority", what is lead by five people delegated by our goverment (or his party) they have every right to controll the whole media (tv, newspaper, internet)

So if somebody write sth against gov, new media authority can call him as traitor or terrorist or just flame journalist and block his news... :-(
In Slovak news we hear that some Magyar's newspapers were complain that they can not write true now if this true is against gov... I dont know if this is true, but if some media in the Hungary are complaying on this, that is really bad and that is not freedom of speech :-(.

in romania we have quite the same issue. in my opinion, the problem is not about the existance of a regulatoin institution, but the quality of their members and how that people is assigned to such duty.

Well, that's more complicated. The members of the authority came from the Fidesz (the government's party) - and they'll be there for 9 years. The authority can investigate the problems reported to them - and the problems they think important (even there isn't any breaking of the rules). They have right to ask a journalist about his/her informator, and they can read every bit of information that can be found in the editorial office. Yes, even the secret ones.
If the newspaper is found guilty, they have to pay a fine, up to 25 million HUF (~90,000 €). That fine can bring almost every newspaper in Hungary to bankruptcy. It's a really dirty way to shut down part of the media, isn't it?
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