Subject: Top 5 player all time

It's what a central striker in the box needs and that's why CR is the best poacher of his era, maybe ever. Messi scores almost the same amount of goals but on top of that is a brilliant playmaker. He is often involved in the creation of his and other goals directly.

If we talk about other abilities in which Messi has the edge I could name dribbling, agility, shotmaking, technique, decisions, playmaking, passing, vision and the list could go on.

Both Messi and CR worked a lot more defensively in their earlier years. It's why I don't really like them anymore - their teams defend with 9 field players most of the time now. Especially the low amount of distance Messi covers per game now is totally ridiculous.

Messi
C.Ronaldo
Ronaldinho
Zidane
Maradona
So many other possible players tho.

Anyone who says Pele is having a laugh
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Also Messi is probably the best ever.

Problem with players like Maradona...
They were insane in their time, but I'm sure they'd be average now.
Top 5 players considering the time they played in or the time we are now?

If Messi or CR7 would have suffered the faults that Diego suffered every game today would be in the wheelchair.

in this sport courage and heart are no more the main skill, we have superatletes with the personality and physicality of a dancing woman.

If you put it like that then yeah of course I agree players even like Ibra/Drogba/Robben are better than Maradona or any play pre 2k. I still think the other 4 in my list are solid choices

Picked this up the other day..

1956: Man City keeper Bert Trautmann breaks his neck, plays rest of match
2017: Marco Asensio out due to infected pimple from shaving legs

soccer was a much tougher before (not saying that is better or worse), just saying..

anyway, comparing players from different era is meaningless and pointless, mixing apples and watermelons :)

The sport nowadays is much more physical, compared to back then. Everyone is stronger and faster.

lol

physical conditioning is better beyond comparison :), but I wasn't implying that.. Hell, even 90's football was man's game..

today?

all bunch of epileptic seizure ballerina/primadonas dancing football.. (yes, dancing, not playing)..

Yeah I understood that, for the most part you are right about players being more primadonas :P

yea, that's probably just jealousy talking out of me hahahahahaha

But that's football.. passing, goals, grat actions a lot of more.. something as you mentioned.. dancing with ball.. that's football for me.. nothing as brutal fauls, hardcore plays.. if you want something like this you can watch rugby or american football, but soccer is about playing with ball, nothing as crushing the bodies..

And Ronaldo, Messi, Griezman and a lot of more are better in SOCCER/Football then "old legends".. Yes.. a lot of them are actors and I dont like it.. but simply - thats not the point of football..

Yea, I guess that is what it's suppose to be :), an art :).. Sadly, money corrupts everything and since football revolves around huge amount of mooneh, we will always have "actors"..
hell, no one wants dead bodies/broken bones/fights on the field..

so, to stick to topic, best 5 footballers (in my world) are me and my four mates when we play 5 a side and then drink beer :D

@so, to stick to topic, best 5 footballers (in my world) are me and my four mates when we play 5 a side and then drink beer :D

+1

But that's football.. passing, goals, grat actions a lot of more.. something as you mentioned.. dancing with ball.. that's football for me.. nothing as brutal fauls, hardcore plays.. if you want something like this you can watch rugby or american football, but soccer is about playing with ball, nothing as crushing the bodies..

I disagree, keeping the ball MUST be dangerous. Football is a contact sport.