Subject: UEFA Cup

Words!!!

... sorry but people are dying guys we have to stop with the violent !!!! what because that your team lost u have to fight with their supporters??? this man is stupid and the cap who killed him is also stupidddddddd

This is bad and should never happen.
link to the story.

why do u talk so much bullshit?

first know how to spell right the names of the teams!

first of all i spelled the name very well and by the way i am not talking bullshit


a man who dies because he go to a football game is a stupid game

The cop who killed him was not stupid. He tried to defend an Israelian supporter and he got attacked. The only thing he could do was to shoot.

Shit, let`s stop this discussion.
Sorry, it sounds a bit hard, but USA and Israel should first stop there wars, then we can talk about that incident in Paris...

Though he could shoot him in leg, or arm...

If you shoot around (and maybe you are in panic), you might kill someone, that's logical. It is a pity this kind of things happen, but it surely isn't a fault of the cops.

Shit, let`s stop this discussion.
Sorry, it sounds a bit hard, but USA and Israel should first stop there wars, then we can talk about that incident in Paris...

There is no relation between the wars in the middle east and this incident. Supporters (hooligans) of this club are known to be anti-semitical and racistic. Don't relate to something you don't know of.

u didn't write it well
check my team name :)

the man died because he threaded a cop and another fan

Yes, you`re right!

But we talk here about this incident, and its strange that nobody talkes about the Israelis and the Americans... They kill person every day.

Thats a bit sad.

There is more being told about wars in the middle east about this (little) incident. It is almost every day on the news. The reason why we don't talk about it in this topic is simply because we would go off-topic.

I think we should stop this discussion, and this is tragic for all of us football fans.

Indeed.

This topic is titled "UEFA Cup" so that is what it should be about.

The bookies don't often get it wrong :)
UEFA Cup outright winners odds

Have to include CL rejects as well (I think Bordeaux are the only definates so far) :

Any Champions League Team 9/4

Sevilla 6/1
Tottenham 13/2
Ajax 12/1
Newcastle 14/1
AZ 16/1
Blackburn 16/1
Rangers 18/1
Palermo 25/1
Espanyol 25/1
Panathinaikos 28/1
Bayer Leverkusen 33/1
Celta Vigo 33/1
Parma 33/1
Lens 33/1
PSG 40/1
Feyenoord 40/1
Nancy 40/1
Osasuna 50/1
Fenerbahce 50/1
Dinamo Bucharest 66/1
Maccabi Haifa 80/1
Besiktas 100/1
Slovan Liberec 100/1
Eintracht Frankfurt 100/1
Auxerre 100/1
Club Brugge 125/1
Livorno 125/1
Sparta Prague 125/1
Rapid Bucharest 150/1
SV Zulte Waregem 150/1
Hapoel Tel Aviv 150/1
Basel 200/1
Braga 200/1
Mlada Boleslav 250/1
Odense 250/1
Partizan Belgrade 250/1
Heerenveen 400/1
Austria Vienna 500/1
Grasshoppers 750/1
Wisla Krakow 750/1
(edited)