Subject: break your tongue:)

in spain literally correct is the first one, but most of the people pronounce it like yamo, so most of the people don't make any diffrence between ll and y whle speaking

I don't know how to call this R, but try to record you saying that, post here and we will see if you do correctly :D At first it's difficult in both cases, spanish with that R and your wiht our R, but in the end you get used to, except in some cases, you only have to listen to the people around the football form other countries, some have been here for a very long time and don't speak very well [mdr][mdr]

I don't know exactly know which you mean, so I recorded two. http://home.wanadoo.nl/hietkamp/g.wav and http://home.wanadoo.nl/hietkamp/rr.wav

I have big problems pronouncing the voiced velar fricative which is used in Dutch. Most native Dutch speakers pronounce it without a trill and much shorter then I do.

I mean the rr, espeacilly people who speak french can't pronounce at first, you can try saying the break tongue I posted before and recording :D

um tigre triste blá blá blá... trigo trigre triste tigre

kuja je lajala
kuja je zalajala
kuja je prolajala

it's about a bitch barking [drunk][drunk]

The hardest letter in spanish is the "c"

it's something like the "th" to pronounce. I'm learning spanish and damn it's hard!

Man, the "c" is very easy to pronouce :D

Here you have two more tongue twisters with this sound:

No cesa de sisar la zonta Zita y su soso cese Sussy susurra, Sussy susurra el soso cese de Zita que no cesa de sisar.
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Saciando sus ansias sinceras de sustos, Susana azuzaba en el sésamo santo al sucio asesino del zurdo Zozaya

it's easy the "c", when it is before a,o,u it sounds like a "k" and before e and i like a "z"

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Polish:

W szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie

(V shchebrsheshynye chshchoch bshmee v tshcheenee)

voiced velar fricative

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That's already a tongue breaker... I guess you mean the R? Well after my French lessons I now tend to pronounce it in the wrong way as well.

No, a voiced velar fricative is ch or g sound in Dutch.

raz dwa trzy, dzis obiadu nie jesz Ty ;]

Can you give me some more tips. Like how to insult someone:-D(i already know: joder,hostia, míerde)?