Subject: Supporters Mood Dropping...

Supporters Mood Dropping... .. what a stup id thing and also Sponsors These things are worst time i've ever seen. From last update sokker is getting worse .. İ think it 'll not be good.
They must do a new update and make everything okay.
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not going to happen..

only suggestion i have at this stage, is to make a fanclub numbers adjustment, so its not as dependant on mood because after winning a cup game 20 nil and losing mood slightly, i dont think you should lose numbers ;)
i dont mind a bit of a stint to income, theres too much money in the game as it is

8 matches played, I won 7 of those matches, lost only 1, third in my division, still in the cup but supportersmood is still way to low and supporters are still leaving ... ridiculous !!!!!! Winning isn't enough even if it is with high numbers (winning with idiot high numbers probably is) .... my supporters don't like winning, what kind of stupid rule is that ????

7 victories, 1 draw vs better team, et and my fan mood is still at lvl 1.

Work as intented ? no, just a crap system never tested before getting live, with a HUGE impact on how to handle the developpement of your team WITHOUT any prior notice which would have allow you to adapt ( basically to sell all your youths, and crush all noobs teams with A' team, by 20-0 )

put it this way. If it stays like this there will be a lot lot less users in scotland as a lot of managers are nearing the towel throw in stage.

I posted this on another forum that dealt with the same topic........

It seems to dodgy even for its intended use on underdogs to me. One of the new guys in my league is badly outclassed whether you go on ratings, values or rank and managed to keep the score down to some extent (even taking a point in one game) until yesterday.

Yesterday he played one of the supposedly 'big three' and to make things worse he forgot to set his team up which meant he played 10 men and a man got sent off aswell during the game. He lost 8-0 which probably should have been expected even with his first team and 11 players playing. Today he posted on our forum that his fans are depressed, I don't know at this point if that was due to just yesterday but it's stupid whether it is or not.

In my game I climbed a level after a 7-3 result (YAY!!!) when I was worried that I hadn't actually done enough to keep at the level that I was because I probably had the stronger team.

I begin the season with supporters who believe in their club ( 4 ) . I

I win cup against a CFA2 0-9 (ranking on 1600 against 2800): no change (moods 4)
I lose against the 1st of my CFA.44 2-5 (ranking on 2800 against 2400): my supporters fall in 2 (moods 2)
I win cup against a CFA 1-3 (on 2000 against 2800): I lose 1 level! (moods 1)
I win in CFA.44 2-3 (3000 against 2800): I gain 1 level (moods 2)
I lose cup against L2 0-11 (on 2800 against 4000): I lose 1 level (moods 1)
I make in CFA.44 3-3 (on 2800 against 2800): no change
I win in friendly 2-1 (on 2800 against 2300): no change
I win in CFA.44 2-4 (on 2600 against 2800): no change!!!

Result: supporters always in are furious. An enormous financial loss in the long run.

Thus to gain levels it's necessary to beat teams of a ranking equivalent or superior to his.
We are 5 in my CFA.44 (the strongest CFA). I can thus hope to gain 10 points to the max this season. (Knowing that we are very close. No high score.)

On the other hand, I can hope to lose least 20 levels if I lose all my matches. (1 against the teams in the same ranking and 2 against those who have less) more the cup with 1 minimum level. In theory I can come fall from at least 21 points in 1 season.

Later, at least half of the teams will have furious supporters or almost without real hope to take out there.

And it's the teams to the motivated players who risk to be strongly demotivated...
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I almost did post here again to complain, but I better tell my dog about my supporters leaving every week.
The dog will at least pretend to be interested in me telling him that I lost more supporters in this season than I gained the previous season. Also that my weekly income has dropped 80k, because I lost 1 match.

It is no use posting it here.

Haven't read the whole topic.
But. This system is just: UNACCEPTABLE!!!
wtf? really!
I was winner last year, so I came with maximum supporter mood, and since: I beat this season the 2nd and 3rd from last season, (I sold some old player, now 18-20yo also playing in my club, 5-7% decrease of stats.) I lost from 4th and 5th.
Mood was 2/7!!! After today 5-1 win, I have 3/7 now. And the best is I have no more supporter, who would join the club! I had the same amount of audiance in my match, as a 3 league lower match had!!!


Poland realised, they can hold their hegemony only whether they still get 60k on a match, and others get stuck on these now? Hell, yeah.
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Hmm.. no offense, but how do you know that if there were no changes to the fanmood system and you did lose 3 out of 5 league matches and had 1 draw your fanmood would be better than 3/7?

I won 3/5, and all cup match. I think you misunderstood me here, sorry if it was not clear. No draw yet (not my type :D)

You won your league last year so your supporters expect the same this year- you're in fifth place so they're unhappy. Why is this so hard to understand?

@Bala, yea sorry, I don't know where I did look o.O

@Shaneteam, that is exactly what I fear, that the position in league table of last season has a relatively big influence on supporter mood dropping. But it seems that this effect is not new at all (!!!) and was only modified slightly. Good for me, was second to last last season and now still have fans on second highest level although I lost a match and had a draw this season.
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A 7:0 league win is not enough for a better mood here.
Still only satisfied and again one supporter left the club.
Check my results, are you kidding me? :(

"You won your league last year so your supporters expect the same this year-"

I don't think the league position is related in any way to the supporter mood.
Why? Because the reaction seems (and is very probably) the same for sunday games and wednesday games. My impression is that it relates, just like for the ranking points calculation, on the ranking points of both opponents and, for sunday games, on the average ranking points of the league.

The mood is not the same calculation as ranking.

My ranking was going up, while my mood went down.


The different between your Ranking and opponent is at least as wrong part of the mood calculation. Its too harsh on high ranked teams, too easy for mood to drop, too hard to gain mood.

I agree with the concept, just its too harsh at the moment in my opinion. If it was easy down, then when your on a low mood (2,1,0) then easier to lift the fans. Id my happier. Seems like its a big hill to get up. Loose your footing once or twice and your at the bottom.


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However Id prefer a system where its easy to get to normal mood. Down and up the way. Difficult to get into very high or very low moods. A run of victories or run of defeats either way. This would make more sense and cause less people to moan!
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I understand its more difficult and more a pain for devs to code a more complex calculation. But it would be worth it.
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