Subject: Supporters Mood Dropping...

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I can't believe these numbers. My team has only lost in the cup final and champoins cup third round against a far superior opponent, I have an 8pt lead and am on my way to a third consecutive title, my fans are depressed and I have had one full house since the new rules came in. My team is losing money badly, attendance is dropping, I have had to make massive cuts to the quality of my team just to avoid bankruptcy already, a full third of total salaries that I used to pay out, and cannot afford to hire unearthly coaches for anything other than my Jr's, most of whom have been coming out with serious stamina and gk drains on thier other skills and aren't selling for diddly squat. I have also lost something like 3-400 supporters over the last two seasons, the most successful in my teams history.

In essence, my team is spiralling towards bankruptcy because of being successful, I can't imagine how bad it will get when cuts to my salaries start resulting in actual losses!

I have been a die hard supporter of the dev team since day one, but I will not be renewing plus, and can't see any way to save my team in the long term.

I have lost 196 875 $ over the last two weeks.

I think that in bigger countries the effects are not so bad for the top teams, as they play many teams with higher ranking, but for the good teams in small countries we are all going to go bankrupt, it's just a matter of time. The only solution is to drop my ranking by gutting my team, but I am so far ahead of most of my opponents that it would take 2-3 seasons of losing to bring my fans 'expectations' back down, by then I will have no sponsor income or supporters left and all of the work that I have put into this team will have been lost.

All because my team is good. Somehow I don't think that this is what the dev's had in mind.

maybe you have to win with more than 10 goals every match mate! :\

the connection of fan mood with ranking was the worst change of the game EVER.
you can still change it! connect fan mood with average rating or league position instead!

well, thats just it

my old team would win 10-0, but we were already losing veteran teams because mine and seca's squads were so dominant, seca scaled his team back after something like nine consecutive league titles and at that point he had 60 straight without a loss, so to keep interest up we had to scale our teams back a bit anyways

now I am getting killed for it, and if the CPL was a real league there would be major concern as we are overall running at about 60-70% arena capacity and pretty much every team is struggling to keep thier fans from what I can tell

this system is a disaster and could ruin the game for many smaller countries

yes , I agree with you.

I've not had as much difficulty as you seem to be having this season (from a similar size league)- looking at the two it seems it's the fact you had 3 relatively strong teams promote into your division has made it a big challenge to keep supporters happy as you're expected to win those games well. I actually take more care in setting tactics against newly promoted teams like them now than I do against my main rivals as I know I'll have to win by about 5 to keep my fans happy :)

I'm not sure whether it's just a small country thing- they seem to be having problems with the longer cup run against lower division teams. I think, whatever size of country you're in, it's very difficult if you've been near the top of your top league for a long time. The other side to that is that none of us top teams complained in the old system about having a bulletproof fan mood which meant we had an economy that made us uncatchable to any teams below us ;)

You said I'll have to win by about 5 to keep my fans happy :) do you think that it is realistics, I think , that if you win it is already a good result , at end that only 3 points more. and the place at the league is so important No?

I would prefer your mood to stay the same (or go up) if you win, never going down unless you draw/lose.

That pretty much describes the old system... Which is fine if you're successful but not so great for newer teams.

Using that system if I beat a team 2 divisions lower than me in the cup 1-0 I'd keep my mood level and my opponent would lose a level even though he held me to one goal.

The newer system is more balanced for a higher percentage of teams. I'm not saying it's perfect but it's not as bad as is being made out in this thread :)

It still can be 1-0, and the supporters should be happy about the closeness of it. But it gets to the point where you have to win 20-0 in the top division, to stop mood going down, you know tweaks are needed.


While it's good that they're helping newbies, I don't think that people who have been here five years like being kicked where it hurts with steel toe-capped boots.
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Personally I don't mind the steel toe caps as I know how easy I had it for years before they did change things :) It would be great for me if it were easier to keep my fan mood up, whether that benefits the game as a whole is the question though...

are you saying you like the new system to be too harsh in order to punish those who got lucky under the old system?

That's my personal view on things which is why I'm not overly annoyed by the whole thing :). I wasn't implying that everyone else should shut up if they think it's unfair- just that this system is more fair for more teams :)

today i won 2:1 in the last minute, i remained 2nd in my league and fan mood dropped, because my opponent is lower in ranking. come on, this is really annoying! i have 2000 supps and still cant have a full stadium!

Devs, fan mood -at least after league matches-, should be related only with results not about ranking!!

I lost my last friendly by 1:0 and my supporter mood dropped by 1 level.

isn't it a bit exaggerated? How can a friendly game have so much influence? It is not even a big loss.

This is about this match ?
your team
Arsenal_London 1 - 0 Holland United
Ranking 3932.05 3039.08
Rating 49 39.2

and you loose only by 1 goal.
Definitly I do not understand this crazy modification, or may be the devs would like to buzy us with this and become angry sokker users.

Hola Dear Devs ,
we love you, We know that you exist, and you ar near GOD, but so now please go down on our good earth, and rectify this supporters mood.