Subject: [Idea] Less leagues per division

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In many countries the bottom division(s) are deleted. I think after this deleting of division something else needs to be done to get more divisions back (without the botteams) so managers can promote more often and won't stuck in a bottom league for too many seasons.

A solution is to change the structure of leagues in divisions, and this will work okay for all countries. Instead of the current structure:

Division 1 (1)
Division 2 (4)
Division 3 (16)
Division 4 (64)
etc ...

It could be changed into

Division 1 (1)
Division 2 (2)
Division 3 (4)
Division 4 (16)
Division 5 (64)
etc ...
Bottom League (7 botteams + all new managers)

And ofcourse in bottom leagues all human controlled teams should play their matches each weekend and against other human controlled teams, and at the end of a season as many as possible human controlled teams should promote/replace botteams in the next division.

This way managers have more promotions to look for, stronger teams will be more at the top and the gap between divisions/leagues will become smaller (good for new managers) and also countries with just a few managers can still have 3 divisions + bottom league but with a lot less (bot)teams as they have today. Win - win for everyone, or most as the weakest teams in second division will be put in third division.

I think the better way to ajust the pyramid of division its a generical grows and not a geometrical one like everybody was think disagreeing only the number (4, 3, 2)

To me, the number of divisions need to be increase level by level in diferent way.

An example: (I don't saying that's the better situation, just a example)

1st division - 1 (8 teams)*with more teams perhaps, this way the next divisions can be bigger
2nd division - 4 (32 teams)
3rd division - 12 (96 teams)
4th division - 24 (192 teams)
5th division - 36 (288 teams)
6th division - 45 (360 teams)
...

It could be changed into

Division 1 (1)
Division 2 (2)
Division 3 (4)
Division 4 (16)
Division 5 (64)
etc ...
Bottom League (7 botteams + all new managers)

I had no seen it yet... This seems perfect!

I think so to :)

And if Division 5 (64) is too large, it could also be Division 5 (32) so new managers won't promote to botleagues again.

Agreed.

64 teams will relegated directly and 256 will play qualifies... So in bigger countrys make 64 and in the smallers ones make 32...

Totaly agreed with you both Charles Hill and bronho !!!
Very good idea


Perhaps could you post a survey about it (As greg told, i believe) ?

Why not 1, 2, 4 ,8, 16, 32 etc and a bottom unik league with 7 bots (or a little more) ???

Why not 1, 2, 4 ,8, 16, 32

This is (or was) not really possible because of the large Sokker countries, they would have too many divisions. But maybe after the deleted divisions it is possible now to do that.

Is this even going anywhere?? Has any dev even seen this??

Is this even going anywhere?? Has any dev even seen this??

Yes, greg has seen this idea and even suggested to start a poll and ask the opinion of managers. Unfortunately I can't start a poll anymore with the idea posted on top of this page (link) because I don't have Plus anymore.

If many agree with the idea something could be changed about the structure of divisions.

EDIT: So maybe someone can start a new topic + poll with this idea:


In many countries the bottom division(s) are deleted. I think after this deleting of division something else needs to be done to get more divisions back (without the botteams) so managers can promote more often and won't stuck in a bottom league for too many seasons.

A solution is to change the structure of leagues in divisions, and this will work okay for all countries. Instead of the current structure:

Division 1 (1)
Division 2 (4)
Division 3 (16)
Division 4 (64)
etc ...

It could be changed into

Division 1 (1)
Division 2 (2)
Division 3 (4)
Division 4 (16)
Division 5 (64) or Division 5 (32) >> 32 for smaller countries to prevent too many botleagues
etc ...
Bottom League (7 botteams + all new managers)

And ofcourse in bottom leagues all human controlled teams should play their matches each weekend and against other human controlled teams, and at the end of a season as many as possible human controlled teams should promote/replace botteams in the next division.

This way managers have more promotions to look for, stronger teams will be more at the top and the gap between divisions/leagues will become smaller (good for new managers), also at the top because of a new smaller second division (2) and countries with just a few managers can still have 3 divisions + bottom league but with a lot less (bot)teams as they have today. Win - win for everyone, or mostly everyone, the weakest teams in second division will be put in third division.

If many managers agree, maybe the DEVs will implement this new division structure.


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i will do that ;=)

Thanks again! :)

1-2-4-16-64 wouldnt solve the problem unless countries have less then 50 users..... it needs to be 1-2-4-8-16-32 (or even 1-2-4-8-8-8-8-8 in countries with less then 500 users)... otherwise it will still be a too big bottom, where there will be too many 40-80% bot leagues... the more narrow the structure is made, the more promotions to achieve and more even leagues there will be

IMO this would be the solution:

Countries with over 500 users

1
4
8
16
32
64
64
64


Countries with 200-500

1
4
8
16
16
16
16


Countries with less then 200 users

1
2
4
8
8
8
8



And also... if double the leagues as the one above=winners auto promote, worst half of 5-8 auto relegate, 2nd place play qualification versus better half of 5-8.... this would help leagues where there are 2-3 strong teams that all could play in higher league, but each time someone goes up, another strong goes down, so will make a hard promotion from that league...
And if four times as much leagues as the one above, half will auto promote, other half will play quali.... i know that at least our top division has only got 1 team swithced per season for the last 2 rl years....
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