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Subject: [idea]2nd team for plus members

2011-01-08 19:49:25
engine is perfect as it is for most of people, this engine is the best that football managers can have, and its the only reason im still here...

If you answer this way, you're far of the truth, buddy. If an engine giving you matches without gk or with two gk in one goal, it's okay with you, moreover it's the best and so on ?!? As far is this opinion as your proposal is from the true arguments. Please read the whole string of complaints you have here on the forum, the most of them are justified. Do you want me to make a statistic about how many Romanian users declared they'll give up with the Plus buying because of the engine and how many because they got bored ? These are the facts, not what you're saying.
I used to be a professional football player and coach, don't explain me how perfect is this engine please, I can give you a long list of broken functions of the engine.
Okay, as I already admited: few old users can get bored with the game, no more. Where are the others for to increase the Plus membership ? As you said, I'm a young user here, I'm not interested in this idea......you recognize this idea is just for the blase users or for those playing in the less competitive championships.

Consequently, practically you didn't cancel my doubts and you didn't strengthen your reasons for this idea, mainly the "I think it would greatly increase plus memberships".
I used to play another two online games for years, more than 4 years, so it's not valid your assumption "so you have no idea how it feels when u play for 4 years or more...", wrong point.
Another one: "but most of plus users dont watch those games, believe me...", wrong also.

So, I could see just few non-valid counterarguments. If you want this idea without arguments, it's okay, but don't run on wrong arguments.
Otherwise, I just said my opinion (including the arguments), no need to jump on me with "lol" and "engine is perfect" and "you play this game for 1 year only" and so on. Focus on the arguments.
2011-01-08 19:53:22
If an engine giving you matches without gk or with two gk in one goal, it's okay with you

yes its ok, since chance of it happening is around 0.001%


basically u have no arguments against this idea so get lost.
2011-01-08 19:54:06
[b]know it sounds a bit extreme but i think its quite reasonable with the following rules;[ /b]

- You Must be a PLUS User

- both teams would be under control of same username, so everybody could see what ur second team is, then any transfer between 2 teams would result in a ban (or basically it would be practical to disable bidding or proposing a friendly match, since its the same user)

[b]What this would solve?[ /b]

- well, first of all i think it would greatly increase plus memberships, as it would finally give some practical use, however not an advantage against non plus users. (whenever plus expires secondary team would be controlled by bot, if plus is renewed control would be regained)

- besides that, many old managers lose interest in this game and I think many managers would like to start all over again, to build a team from scratch, but they are just too tied to an old team to do that, thus they keep it, but keep losing interest in sokker as well, and eventually leave...

[b]From the thread, we have decided;[ /b]

- That all 2nd teams will play in this “World League”. This League will be in a new “PLUS” Country. A Country separate from the Sokker World. This Country will have no NT and U21 team due to any possible advantage they may have, it will just be a country with new divisions for the PLUS teams.

- That PLUS teams cannot enter friendly leagues, to prevent them playing the 1st team of a user.

[b]What will this bring[ /b]

- Many Plus users want to start from the beginning, but also keep their current team. They want to see if they can do better than they did before, make a better team but also they will have the chance to show off their ability against many other experienced managers.

- The “World League” would be a very competitive and active league. This is what we want. Smaller countries will be able to experience a different play other than winning their league every season, but they will have to battle against teams from around the world.

- The League will by just like normal countries, split into divisions (1st Divisions, 4 Second Divisions, 16 Third Divisions and so on).

- Managers from around the world will be able to battle against each other, not just their own country.

[b]Transfer System / Cheating[ /b]

- The transfer system would be the same market as we use today, if you forbid bidding between the same user then there would be no problems.

- Also, cheating will also be very unlikely because plus users are less likely to cheat, because they have money to lose….those who buy plus and would play there would be at risk of losing control for a month or two if they were caught cheating. This then could and probably will destroy both of the users teams

[b]Other Advantages[ /b]

- ‘new’ users get to compete with the ‘old’ ones, without having a huge disadvantage,

- Plus gets interesting, so this might increase the number of Plususers, which means extra income for Sokker.


[b]Disadvantages[ /b]

- none to date

[b]YOU DONT HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND TEAM, IT WILL BE YOUR CHOICE WHETHER TO SIGN UPTO THE WORLD LEAGUE OR NOT[ /b]
2011-01-08 19:54:20
don't shoot off everyone who's against it, maybe they can bring us more ideas
that way the proposition can be more faultless ;)
2011-01-08 19:56:40
hes against it, but not giving any reasonable explanation why... he didnt find any faults of this idea so why would i want him here? if he has any valid argument against it I am more than willing to discuss it and to try to improve the idea...
2011-01-08 19:58:37
Maybe you can make another title "Remarks we countered", and put "an advantage for Plususers' first team" under it ;-)
2011-01-08 20:04:36
so should i gtfo? :p
no i'm just joking, but indeed they have to bring us some real and reasonable explanations before they start b*tching about advantages which aren't there
2011-01-08 20:09:38
mate write just -1
2011-01-08 20:11:36
-1 is for people who have no arguments to make and are just being obstructive for the sake of it.
2011-01-08 20:15:01
why don't you create a new/second sokker?
that's what you are asking, in fact.
2011-01-08 20:15:26
that is nowhere near what we are asking...
2011-01-08 20:15:55
no we're not, and we don't have the rights to just go and copy a game
2011-01-08 20:16:05
You really don't get it, do you?
2011-01-08 20:18:21
you want another game inside that game. is it clear? for me it is.
i quit this argument. we are all spamming
2011-01-08 20:20:03
no! i wan't a dream inside a dream, inside another dream!

INCEPTION!
2011-01-08 20:20:41
I had a dream ...