Subject: [BUG] ME Errors

http://online.sokker.org/comment.php?matchID=19499423


min 52 AFET pushes the ball forward but doesn't accelerate
min 71 Opfer with DIVINE pace pushes the ball forward but doesn't accelerate
min 75 Cuba pushes the ball forward but doesn't accelerate

A big deal with the scores right now is not enough shots because of this new combination play. Greg is really thinking about this issue and possibly increasing game length to allow for more shots, but this also allows for more injuries and cards and etc so it's still a highly debated topic. Nothing is final yet but we are all working on figuring out the best way to solve this.

Incorrect. If matches lenght increased, injury rate will be modified to not be increased. This is stated on first post of the poll about longer matches.

This are not "my" words Kemk. I was just pasting conversations we had on another topic to inform of it here.

Thank you for the correction.

Yes I'm sorry. It was at first debated but then later decided (before the poll) that we wouldn't want to increase injury/card risks.

Of course, i wanted to reply your post with MrLama conversation, not your own words. Just to clarify this concept as it may lead to a wrong idea of longer matches. :)

There are so many topics about ME and i don't know if it was mentioned in some of them, but i've experinced many times the problem of strikers kicking the ball in the air like 60 metres, something what looks like embarassingly failed shot atempt.
This happened many times in 2D (dont know about 3D). It also happens from freekicks..

Usually this a bad shot, but if you think it's a bug because the player has a high striking you can post match_ID or url, and minut that rare shot happens, so then we can post on test server to show the devs :)
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I don't remember all the examples and I don't know if those are bugs but imo I think it doesn't look good.

86th minute of this match, even though I've seen worse I dont think this is how briliant striker (Melissaris) in magical form should shoot the ball from distance.

90th minute of this match. Yes, the striker Serola has only very good striking (I think he had around 17 form at that time) and idk if it was even shot attempt but it just looks really bad.

I've only watched it in 2D.

86th minute of this match, even though I've seen worse I dont think this is how briliant striker (Melissaris) in magical form should shoot the ball from distance.

I'm not plus user but I saw in comments that T. Melissaris shots and the ball hits the post, right? What is wrong, then?

90th minute of this match. Yes, the striker Serola has only very good striking (I think he had around 17 form at that time) and idk if it was even shot attempt but it just looks really bad.

After 90 minuts, maybe condition of player was too low, and then all skills gets down, but pm. Can be this?

Sorry to ask this questions before to show the devs, but with last ME modifications bad shots still can happen; altough since yesterday, shots are stronger than before.

I think the new ME is awesome. Now, we will see users use much more variety of tactics not like the old time when the same tactic is used years after years. I lost 2 league match consecutively too but now i see my problem that I need to use different tactic to deal with different opponents. This game has just turned into a real mind game and bring back the interest in me. However, you cannot deny those bug from the old engine like dumb def kick the ball out of field, striker pass the ball backward, players launch ball but not accelerate, players reset game while opponent's striker havent got back on their side. With those bug fixed, sokker will be the best football manager game out there. Please work harder to fix those things and we would be really thanksfull. Sincerely yours!

Nice! The better way to help in solve the problem of some bugs is report url match and minut and a description of what happened. Because sometimes we forget that players get tired to speed up when launch, or that striker played with mid order (I'm not saying it doesn't happens with att order) ... so the better technical report the better chance to solve by devs. :))

Kick off bug (players reset game while opponent's striker havent got back on their side) is in mind of devs to be solved soon.

Add a few things: to adopt with the new engine, dev need to involves some option for players like man-mark, zone-mark, long ball, short ball too. If not, players will be more likely to chose defend tactic cause i think defend tactic is kind of over powered at the moment

At this point is very complicat in my opinion. Now you can manage players behaviour with tactics editor. Here is important tactical discipline of players to better achieve what you want from them. Last modifications includes not man marking when defensive wall at free kick.

Anyway, this idea you mentioned is already posted on test server and can be condered by devs. :))

I'm not plus user but I saw in comments that T. Melissaris shots and the ball hits the post, right? What is wrong, then?

It's wrong the way ho "shoots" it. It's not a shot it's a parody..

After 90 minuts, maybe condition of player was too low, and then all skills gets down, but pm. Can be this?

No it can't. It was the most tragic shot attempt I've seen..

It's wrong the way ho "shoots" it. It's not a shot it's a parody..

I can't see this match, but if the ball hits the post, not a bad shot. May be only cosmetic question.

No it can't. It was the most tragic shot attempt I've seen..

But condition of the players affects their skills, although you can't see how. Like in RL, this can happens; a player can fail in connecting his shot and the ball goes to another direction than desired.

Like you said before, these aren't bugs. Are just animations and we have to put imagination on what we see on the pitch. 2 extremely bad shots (or 5) don't means a bad thing for the game. Of course we all don't like when our players fails in shot attempting, but when is the opponent who fails we are glad. :))

http://online.sokker.org/comment.php?matchID=19401369

4th minute - rivals midfielders mistake
21st minute - impotency of magic striker to shot a goal

+ rivals strikers cannot shot goal into my net even though that they had 3 chances striker vs. my GK...

+ My strikers werent abble to shot a goal from 8 meters (max.), it seems they want to kill the GK, so they were shooting on him intead of into empty area in net...
So the game should end 6:4 or something like that, but both keepers had unbelievable saves and the result is 1:0

I have won, but I am still not very happy with engine