Subject: Ideas & Suggestions Poll

I got a feeling that someone is reading us, that is great for a start :)

So, voting part:

- Make Sokker into Android and ios client --- ok
- Change website graphics design, especially home page----dont care
- Change faces to be more realistic and visible in 3D viewer----dont care
- Change Training to be more realistic, add team training camps-------please, think about it, NO
- More payment options----more options is better but i do not see this as priority, no
- Improved interactive ingame tutorial----great idea, YES
- Introduce Team/Individual Playing Styles (e.g. long/short pass styles etc.)------ what does this mean? looks like ME changing, again and again without testing, NO
- More statistics for players and teams------ it's always nice to have more statistic, in every competition, yes
- Market Assistant / Autobid system ------ if this will fix market oscillations and wont be a privilege of plus users, otherwise NO
- Reduce bottom divisions into one big league similar to the junior leagues-------great idea, make new users play with each other from first week, easier sistem to promote active managers but please fix all junior school problems, dont repeat them, YES

- Reduce bottom divisions into one big league similar to the junior leagues-------

Ah Ah Ah, when you know in the last 21 junior matches i did, only 5 at home the others at oponent stadium, that it is not the way to improve the bottom league.

improve the junior league before, and we will see,

Lots of the poll options would be useful additions. Personally i would like to see easier tactical set-up (when making new formations) and a better match engine!

New Sokker poll with multiple choices

as i can see in contradiction with FB no one in here voted for training change :)...so the truth is HERE ;)
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Exactly ;)

Copied from the other topic.

- Make Sokker into Android and ios client - ofcourse, this should have been done already
- Change website graphics design, especially home page - yes, this will make Sokker look more professional, IF it's done correctly
- Change faces to be more realistic and visible in 3D viewer - yes, same reason as changing the website graphics
- Change Training to be more realistic, add team training camps - as long as it doesn't make Sokker more complex for (new) managers
- More payment options - if this means more money can be invested in Sokker to make the game better and more advertisement, than yes
- Improved interactive ingame tutorial - absolutely yes!
- Introduce Team/Individual Playing Styles (e.g. long/short pass styles etc.) - yes, but not too complex, it must be easy to understand and set
- More statistics for players and teams - yes
- Market Assistant / Autobid system - absolutely no!
- Reduce bottom divisions into one big league similar to the junior leagues - maybe, but only if this means 1 new bottom division is added to the current divisions, but absolutely not as a replacement of the current bottom divisions!! And managers should also only be able to promote from this division to higher divisions, not degrade to this division

Difficult to vote for the best idea, these are the ones I think are most important:
- Make Sokker into Android and iOS client
- Change website graphics design, especially home page
- Improved interactive ingame tutorial

For me, there are several good ideas in the list. But the MUST two are these:

(1) Introduce Team/Individual Playing Styles (e.g. long/short pass styles etc.)

and

(2) Change Training to be more realistic, add team training camps etc.

With 2 two on board, we're talking. Without these two, all the others are useless, SK would continue NOT being a football manager/simulation.

Assuming the first two were implemented, the other nice ideas are:

- Market Assistant / Autobid system
- Reduce bottom divisions into one big league similar to the junior leagues
- Change website graphics design, especially home page (but we went here once already, I would not waste resources on this again as a priority... we went there, we got what we got, SK is never going to have a beautiful FM13-like graphic design and menu).

At the bottom (still good ideas, only not too important):

- More statistics for players and teams

My opinion:

- Change Training to be more realistic, add team training camps
I don't care about training camps, but the training system definitely has room for improvement in my opinion.
Having said that, the endresult of the current system is not bad, that should not change too much.
The amount of good and not-so-good players and the levels are quite well balanced now.
A nice introductions I think would be different "peaking" times, so that all players follow different development paths. Some early peakers may peak at 22, for example, instead of every player in Sokker peaking at the age of 30... This would be similar to PES, except maybe a bit simplified.


- Introduce Team/Individual Playing Styles (e.g. long/short pass styles etc.)
I would really like this, this could add a lot to the tactical aspect which is already Sokker's strong point. Balancing this can be difficult, but Greg and his people have proven plenty of times they are up to the task.

- Market Assistant / Autobid system
I'm very divided on this. I think it will cause a lot of inflation, and frustration with the managers that are negatively affected. (Non-Plus managers can be badly affected if this becomes a Plus-only feature). I think all in all i would vote against this.


- Reduce bottom divisions into one big league similar to the junior leagues
Maybe, but only if this means 1 new bottom division is added to the current divisions, but absolutely not as a replacement of the current bottom divisions!! And managers should also only be able to promote from this division to higher divisions, not degrade to this division
(thank you for letting me copy your opinion ;-)


Lower priority ("Sure, why not, but it won't really make a difference for me personally"):

- Make Sokker into Android and ios client
- Change website graphics design, especially home page
- Change faces to be more realistic and visible in 3D viewer
- More payment options
- Improved interactive ingame tutorial
- More statistics for players and teams

My humble opinion:

Make Sokker into Android and iOS client -> Yes, and please put some effort in it. who knows maybe sokker will success on the mobile market. I see a big chance here
Change website graphics design, especially home page -> Yes, but not really necessary, I actually prefer as simple as possible
Change faces to be more realistic and visible in 3D viewer -> Sokker better not waste any more money in this crap
Change Training to be more realistic, add team training camps etc. -> No, the current training demands some actual planning and that's what makes me love sokker: planning. But if it improves on what it has now then yes. I want to see changes but just the right one
More payment options -> I think paypal is enough but yeah, may be more options for some country that don't have paypal supported
Improved interactive ingame tutorial -> Yes, attracts new players is very important
Introduce Team/Individual Playing Styles (e.g. long/short pass styles etc.) -> More tactics choices, YES!!!
More statistics for players and teams -> Yes, would be nice
Market Assistant / Autobid system -> Yes, but make the autobid system like on ebay. I don't want it bid all my money on a single junior. And people who say they want people to online has no understanding of the pain to wake up at 3 am for nothing
Reduce bottom divisions into one big league similar to the junior leagues -> Yes, make it more competitive. Although many players won't like that cause everybody want to be a winner but hey it's make the victory sweeter too

But most importantly please fix all the current bug first before considering adding new things. for exp: ball launching then slow down, def kick the ball out for no reason, striker miss too often on an empty goal, player header back when there are tons of space that he can run forward, no gk, and recently there is a mailbox bug too. I also dislike the new 3d match, make the 3d match has the board camera view like on the 2d engine with WATCH-ABLE players and balls and then other 3d viewing options. The 2d view is much better than the 3d view now

Finally, my idea that I suggest is market assistant that notifies me whenever there are players similar to my search criteria transfer listed.

If all of these things came true then sokker would be the best of the best :D
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Introduce Team/Individual Playing Styles (e.g. long/short pass styles etc.) 100% YES !!

and i hope ME to be more realistic

I do support all proposals above plus

My suggestion would be to add 4 new things 2 in tactics and 2 in the management.

Tactic

1) Individual instruction to player on Man to Man defense (on a particular opponent). This alone would entitle a team with less ability but good defense skill to get a good result from a superior team. The game would be more interesting as with a couple of skilled defenders there will not be many big scores.

2) Positioning your players differently (free kick, corner, etc)

Management

3) Introduce player’s salary and contract duration. The contract length to be of limited duration (1 to 4 years) after the player would be free so you can get free and players (if one does not sell them of course before the expiry of his contract) only paying his salary!

4) Remove the open bid, each user will submit a secret bid and 2-3 higher will entitle the users to negotiate salary with the player. In the end the player will select based highest salary and/Or the best league.

I think these changes will increase the interest as it would give an advantage to the users who are most capable on tactics but also to those who are in the Club management.

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here's my idea: I would love it if you can hire players.

I also have a question. You can also see if your plan is approved?
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about hiring players:

I thought about it many times yet, but it will be very hard to do it here in sokker...there could be too many problems with it...

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In my opinion the most important modification is not in the list.

Please change the play-off event in a system of playoff - playout between teams in the same series!

I love Sokker and I think that it is the best game in Internet: for many reasons I'm sure that it is and it will remain inimitable for a long time.

But in my opinion the system of promotion and relegation should be improved.

Look at what my opponent in the last playoffs match wrote to me after the match:
"Dear friend, only a few minutes before the match I changed the decision to give walkover. It's a life that I'm in that group and I thought that a relegation would be a starting point to find a new challenge".

I think that is very bad that the system of promotion and relegation demotivates people so much, creating groups so strong to become cages where you can get away only through a relegation.

And beyond the managerial side of the game, what interest can have a season when even if you have the stronger team of your group but you get a draw in the first match, you already know that you will never get a direct promotion?

Perhaps the polls in the forum aren't so representative, because of the low participation (however usually those who participate in the forums are the most active players), but the results are clear: 74% of the people in Italy and 54% in the world don't like the current system.

My proposal (in order to have more movements in groups, greater uniformity in the difficulty of the groups of the same series, more matches on play-off Sunday) could solve many problems, but of course any changes from the current system would be welcome:

- all the winners play a play-off match between themselves: the winner is promoted, the loser goes in the group of the defeated one
- all the 8th ones are relegated directly
- the 6th and the 7th teams cross between teams from different groups, playing a play-out: the loser is relegated, the winner remains in his group
- the 2nd and the 5th as the 3rd and the 4th cross between teams from different groups: this match is friendly but it gives training and money (so the only teams not playing in the qualifying day are the 8th ones that will be penalized in this way)