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Subject: IDEAS Realisation

2007-07-11 23:52:36
...nothing...
2007-07-12 15:55:02
2 possibilites ( maybe more but only 2 i can think of):

1. No changes for this season.
2. Changes mid-season that causes an unfair situation.
2007-07-12 15:59:20
there will be changes soon, but not related to the match engine, I think.
2007-07-12 16:02:40
Could you confirm that the changes are changes that don't effect the game in a way that you get any disadvantages because the changes weren't implemented at the beginning?

( sorry for being vague)
2007-07-14 13:04:32
I don't want to open new thread,if you think it's necessary i will open it.

What will happen with bot clubs in future?For example in my country(Slavia,Mali djavoli) they are very strong and they have very young players so it's very hard to beat them.Before them it was "KOMPJUTER" who were also very strong.
I think it's very stupid and unfair because weak users don't have chance against them and after all they don't have owner so it's not very fun play with bot.agree..?

Second thing,their players are still under training.(check team work,team work should be tragic if they don't train anything).

My solution is to randomize their lineup,then they wouldn't be so strong and normal club could repleace bot. Or reset their players.This situation is very annoying.

Why devs don't solve that problem?
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2007-07-14 13:55:30
I agree in that :-) i have think about that myself :-)
2007-07-14 19:08:27
my opinion is:

if U aren't strong enough to bit them U shouldn't replace bot. its normal team only without active user so someday bots will go down tu lower division its only question how fast.
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2007-07-15 06:10:53
exactly. Bots will get weaker, while you better be getting stronger thru training. Better to play a good bot until you're ready to promote than to have useless matches against teams playing a forward as their goalie, imho.
2007-07-15 16:11:09
Explain me how will team with average value 48.8 and average lineup 24y will get weaker? 5-7 season at least to become weak inaff so the normal team could beat him.

It shouldn't be your opininon matter,sokker user opinion is only matter.Do you agree with me to open new thread so normal user could say his opinion about this problem..

One more question,why bot still have coaches..?
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2007-07-15 16:13:34
Guacamole is also a normal user, and I happen to agree with him. Comparatively, a team with average value 48.8 and average age 24y will get weaker, as the other teams get stronger and it stagnates.

Let's change the question round...why should the higher leagues be diluted by unworthy teams? Beat the bot and you promote. Lose to the bot and you don't deserve to go up anyway.
2007-07-15 16:15:40
they'll get weaker as their training program will be silly, their players older, and their tactic 100% predictable. So while you're improving they're staying the same and therefore pass them within a season or two.

As far as my opinion not mattering, i'm a very experienced player here, so WHY would you possibly think i don't have an opinion? I'm not a dev, i'm just an admin.

You can open threads here, but i'll tell you again that the idea is a bad one for the game. Just because you want to win more games doesn't mean the devs should make a change - people recommend things like "make training faster" so they can improve and win more all the time, without thinking of the large picture.

Anyway, open the thread and see if most of the experienced users agree with me - gathering the opionions of different people is exactly what this thread is for.
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2007-07-15 16:20:59
but it's not the point to play with bot!? The point is to play against human.

Come on,you know how much it takes to have average value near 50!

I wonder what will happen if for example some of your best teams give up,i guess you will be delighted.

And that unworhty team is bot! and that unworhty team will be in higher division only for a season..
2007-07-15 16:22:38
it's not the point to win,the point is to enjoy in playing with humans..

never mind,i don't fight for my rights..
2007-07-15 16:27:04
Would you enjoy losing 14 games a season 6-0 or 7-1 or something? If you can't beat the bot and yet still promote, that's what will happen.
2007-07-15 16:29:33
I agree with both Woppa and guacamole. If you can't beat the BOT, then you're unworthy to promote.
I also have a strong BOT in my league, since 2 seasons. But he's getting weaker, cause the other teams are getting better cause of training. It's up to you to change, you have a great advantage on the BOT, you allready know which tactic he'll use next time. That's why your idea is rubbish.

The average value doesn't matter. You don't win a match cause of the average value, but with a good tactic (meaning also a tactic adapted to the players you have).
Stop whining, and find out a good tactic against this BOT.
2007-07-15 16:32:55
In fact, one of the guys to whom I am mentor is playing a team tonight who plays a very similar line up every week. If you want the advice I sent to him, just ask and I'll copy and paste it in a mail to you.