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True but with that many shots coming in, the keeper is bound to save a few by law of averages ;).
Still a very nice result for you :).
Still a very nice result for you :).
we got so robbed.. :(
5-5 lots of goals, match with high stakes. they scored ugly goals, we scored the beauty's, if it wasn't for those 2 red cards, we would have won:s
5-5 lots of goals, match with high stakes. they scored ugly goals, we scored the beauty's, if it wasn't for those 2 red cards, we would have won:s
it's not very often you can say that scoring 5 goals wasn't enough to win the match. The red cards hurt you in the end.
Denmark had a woeful defensive tactic, they had their defensive midfielder way too far forward and in conjunction with their high defensive line was asking for through balls and to put pressure on their defs and you capitalized on that several times in the second half especially when they started tiring.
From a spectator point of view it was hard not to laugh when NZ seemingly came back from the dead at 3 - 1 down to lead 5 - 3 only for Denmark to come back and equalize as you just didn't know who was going to end up in front.
Was a bit of an unlucky result for NZ, thought your tactic was better than Denmark's except their winger constantly saved them giving them loads of opportunities to score.
Very bizarre match that's basically all that can be said.
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Denmark had a woeful defensive tactic, they had their defensive midfielder way too far forward and in conjunction with their high defensive line was asking for through balls and to put pressure on their defs and you capitalized on that several times in the second half especially when they started tiring.
From a spectator point of view it was hard not to laugh when NZ seemingly came back from the dead at 3 - 1 down to lead 5 - 3 only for Denmark to come back and equalize as you just didn't know who was going to end up in front.
Was a bit of an unlucky result for NZ, thought your tactic was better than Denmark's except their winger constantly saved them giving them loads of opportunities to score.
Very bizarre match that's basically all that can be said.
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It's funny how things are viewed in the eye of the beholder. The way I saw the match, it was Denmark making the "real" and "beautiful" goals, while NZ didn't produce a single one but instead capitalized on numerous ****ups by the Danish defence. And by the way scoring on almost every real chance, while Denmark had the more chances and thus deserved more goals in the end :)
Anyways it was a... hrmm... interresting match :)
You couldn't expect more drama than delivered. And the end result seemed fair enough. Our matches against Turkey seems to be the key to the worldcup-tickets now...
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Anyways it was a... hrmm... interresting match :)
You couldn't expect more drama than delivered. And the end result seemed fair enough. Our matches against Turkey seems to be the key to the worldcup-tickets now...
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The question is..what is a "nice" goal? 2 goals of Denemarken are almost the same: a defender can do nothing about a pass like that - I'm talking about the winger passes. There was always a defender ready to head the ball back, but your striker had no problem with heading the ball even he was marked. A 3th goal was a corner kick. If I'm right we marked your striker again..again a goal. For me these goals aren't so special :) (A other goal was a pelanty)
At our side, we had the "balls" to play with 3 strikers and we deserved these goals..you made some mistakes with the positioning of your defenders. Denmark can have more chances..but we have more shots. We played 20 minutes with 9 players..normal that you get some more chances then in total :) btw I liked our actions where we scored..you must know that New Zealand has less users then Denmark and the kiwi's don't have that mutch players to play samba football or alot of different tactics.
So I think we could have won, if Bodger didn't get that red card. With 10 we would kept the 5-3..we lost 2 points here.
Edit: *Happy that New Zealand is playing better and better* :)
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At our side, we had the "balls" to play with 3 strikers and we deserved these goals..you made some mistakes with the positioning of your defenders. Denmark can have more chances..but we have more shots. We played 20 minutes with 9 players..normal that you get some more chances then in total :) btw I liked our actions where we scored..you must know that New Zealand has less users then Denmark and the kiwi's don't have that mutch players to play samba football or alot of different tactics.
So I think we could have won, if Bodger didn't get that red card. With 10 we would kept the 5-3..we lost 2 points here.
Edit: *Happy that New Zealand is playing better and better* :)
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It's the way, they are produced, I consider "beautiful" :)
Like in real football solid play on the wing is deadly, and the case is the same in Sokker - demonstrated by Denmark today.
1-0: Our wing outruns your back, who must give a freekick to stop him. The freekick leads to a goal = result of great play.
1-1: A total lack of action by our defenders leaves the ball lying open in the zone with three of your attackers in it = fuckup.
2-1: Again our wing is leaving your defender behind and delivers a great cross almost leading to a goal. But you consede a corner instead, which then becomes the assist = result of great play.
3-1: Again on the (this time opposite) wing - a brilliant cross leads to goal. It looks a bit ugly, because he's tackled in the moment of finishing, but he would have scored anyhow = result of nice play into the box.
3-2: Fumble by our left back, Morcombe takes over and has an easy finish = fuckup.
3-3: Again no action by our defenders leave Bodger with no opponent - fuckup.
3-4: Catastrophic fumble be Rathe becomes a golden opportunity with three attackers in the zone and no defenders = fuckup.
3-5: Rathe (again) makes a crucial mistake by deciding to dribble - easy picking for Bodger and a free path to the goal = fuckup.
4-5: Great play on the wing gets Berglund into the zone with the defender behind him and no other opportunity than making a penalty. It is saved, but we get a retake immediately = great play plus some luck getting number 2.
5-5: Again Berglund on the wing, this time around assisting Dragon for an easy goal = great play.
But I'll admit, that most - if not every - fuckup in the Danish defence today was to blame on me. They were simply misplaced - too far forward on the pitch.
But at the same time your defenders had no effective means to counter our strong wingattack, which lead to all of Denmarks goals. And could've lead to more - like last time we met.
So to sum it up:
Both defences were crap today. But the New Zealand goals were the result mainly of fuckups made by the Danish defenders, while Denmark's goals were the result of playing the wings.
And again: I'm very aware, that it's in the eye of the beholder. And that I'm probably not beeing 100% objective about this :)
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Like in real football solid play on the wing is deadly, and the case is the same in Sokker - demonstrated by Denmark today.
1-0: Our wing outruns your back, who must give a freekick to stop him. The freekick leads to a goal = result of great play.
1-1: A total lack of action by our defenders leaves the ball lying open in the zone with three of your attackers in it = fuckup.
2-1: Again our wing is leaving your defender behind and delivers a great cross almost leading to a goal. But you consede a corner instead, which then becomes the assist = result of great play.
3-1: Again on the (this time opposite) wing - a brilliant cross leads to goal. It looks a bit ugly, because he's tackled in the moment of finishing, but he would have scored anyhow = result of nice play into the box.
3-2: Fumble by our left back, Morcombe takes over and has an easy finish = fuckup.
3-3: Again no action by our defenders leave Bodger with no opponent - fuckup.
3-4: Catastrophic fumble be Rathe becomes a golden opportunity with three attackers in the zone and no defenders = fuckup.
3-5: Rathe (again) makes a crucial mistake by deciding to dribble - easy picking for Bodger and a free path to the goal = fuckup.
4-5: Great play on the wing gets Berglund into the zone with the defender behind him and no other opportunity than making a penalty. It is saved, but we get a retake immediately = great play plus some luck getting number 2.
5-5: Again Berglund on the wing, this time around assisting Dragon for an easy goal = great play.
But I'll admit, that most - if not every - fuckup in the Danish defence today was to blame on me. They were simply misplaced - too far forward on the pitch.
But at the same time your defenders had no effective means to counter our strong wingattack, which lead to all of Denmarks goals. And could've lead to more - like last time we met.
So to sum it up:
Both defences were crap today. But the New Zealand goals were the result mainly of fuckups made by the Danish defenders, while Denmark's goals were the result of playing the wings.
And again: I'm very aware, that it's in the eye of the beholder. And that I'm probably not beeing 100% objective about this :)
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Indeed, you can watch this match bye different glasses :)
We could do 2 things: playing with 5 defenders and 2 strikers or 4 defenders and 3 strikers..I think the difference was only a bigger score..what I prefer :)
Good luck in the the next matches! It was a nice game :)
We could do 2 things: playing with 5 defenders and 2 strikers or 4 defenders and 3 strikers..I think the difference was only a bigger score..what I prefer :)
Good luck in the the next matches! It was a nice game :)
Great match. :) I really liked the New Zealand approach. You played to your strengths (433). Pushing the defense up was a good call too. Some of the throw-ins were weak (it's hard to do nice throw-ins everywhere with a 433), and some of the player selection debatable, but otherwise a very solid game by the manager. :)
The Danish defense looked dreadful. Sluggish and seemingly without technique. I couldn't believe how many times they were stripped of the ball.
Bodger was great. The cards were unfortunate. May well have held on without them.
The draw serves New Zealand well with respect to qualifying. Well done.
PS - I hope you soon stop saying you were "robbed" each week. :) I haven't seen a match yet where I thought you were robbed. Check out the Canada - Austria match from two weeks back ... that will give you a base-line for comparison. :D
The Danish defense looked dreadful. Sluggish and seemingly without technique. I couldn't believe how many times they were stripped of the ball.
Bodger was great. The cards were unfortunate. May well have held on without them.
The draw serves New Zealand well with respect to qualifying. Well done.
PS - I hope you soon stop saying you were "robbed" each week. :) I haven't seen a match yet where I thought you were robbed. Check out the Canada - Austria match from two weeks back ... that will give you a base-line for comparison. :D
5-3, and you f*cked it up... ;-) And what was Bodger doing attacking the referee? Disgraceful! I think you should fire him from the national team after that disastrous meltdown. That was the most clear cut red card I have seen for a long time. The ref was bleeding from his head...
Nah, seriously it was one of the most exciting rollercoasters of a Sokker game I have ever witnessed. There were some brave tactical dispositions on both sides - some backfired while others paid dividends.
Anyway, thanks to MontyBurns and Cerb for delivering such a drama! :-)
Nah, seriously it was one of the most exciting rollercoasters of a Sokker game I have ever witnessed. There were some brave tactical dispositions on both sides - some backfired while others paid dividends.
Anyway, thanks to MontyBurns and Cerb for delivering such a drama! :-)
Ok total wrap up of game
Without me saying fancy stuff
Denmark played like S***
New Zealand Played great
Demark got lucky
New Zealand got Extremly unlucky
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Without me saying fancy stuff
Denmark played like S***
New Zealand Played great
Demark got lucky
New Zealand got Extremly unlucky
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If Watts was playing (and not slightly injured) it would have been NZ 5-0 Denmark ;).