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Subject: Pace Training
Right, I have collated all the information so far:
AGE POP TO Weeks
17 3 2
17 4 3
17 5 2
17 5 2
17 5 3
17 6 3
17 6 2
17 6 4
17 9 4
18 3 2
18 3 2
18 3 2
18 3 3
18 4 2
18 4 2
18 4 3
18 4 3
18 4 3
18 4 3
18 4 3
18 5 2
18 5 2
18 5 2
18 5 3
18 5 3
18 5 3
18 5 3
18 5 3
18 6 2
18 6 2
18 6 3
18 6 3
18 6 3
18 6 3
18 7 3
18 7 4
18 7 4
18 8 3
18 9 4
18 10 5
18 11 4
18 12 5
19 2 3
19 3 2
19 4 2
19 4 3
19 4 4
19 4 4
19 5 2
19 5 3
19 5 3
19 5 4
19 5 4
19 6 2
19 6 3
19 6 3
19 6 3
19 7 2
19 7 3
19 7 3
19 7 3
19 7 4
19 7 4
19 7 4
19 7 4
19 7 4
19 8 3
19 8 4
19 8 4
19 8 4
19 8 4
19 8 4
19 8 5
19 9 3
19 9 3
19 9 4
19 9 4
19 9 4
19 9 5
19 10 5
19 10 5
19 10 6
19 11 4
19 11 5
19 12 5
19 12 5
20 2 2
20 3 3
20 4 3
20 4 5
20 5 3
20 5 4
20 5 5
20 6 4
20 6 4
20 7 3
20 7 4
20 7 4
20 7 4
20 8 4
20 8 4
20 8 4
20 8 4
20 9 4
20 9 6
20 10 4
20 10 4
20 10 5
20 10 5
20 11 4
20 11 5
20 12 4
21 3 3
21 5 3
21 5 3
21 6 3
21 8 4
21 8 4
21 9 4
21 10 5
21 10 6
21 10 6
21 10 7
21 11 5
21 11 6
21 11 7
21 12 5
21 13 5
22 4 4
22 5 5
22 7 4
22 7 5
22 8 4
22 8 4
22 8 7
22 9 5
22 10 5
22 10 8
22 11 5
22 11 6
22 11 6
22 12 7
22 12 7
22 13 7
22 13 7
22 13 7
22 13 8
22 13 9
22 14 8
23 7 9
23 8 6
23 9 5
23 9 6
23 9 6
23 10 7
23 10 7
23 12 7
23 13 8
23 14 8
23 14 9
23 15 8
24 11 7
24 16 11
25 5 8
25 6 6
25 8 9
25 11 8
26 10 9
(edited)
AGE POP TO Weeks
17 3 2
17 4 3
17 5 2
17 5 2
17 5 3
17 6 3
17 6 2
17 6 4
17 9 4
18 3 2
18 3 2
18 3 2
18 3 3
18 4 2
18 4 2
18 4 3
18 4 3
18 4 3
18 4 3
18 4 3
18 5 2
18 5 2
18 5 2
18 5 3
18 5 3
18 5 3
18 5 3
18 5 3
18 6 2
18 6 2
18 6 3
18 6 3
18 6 3
18 6 3
18 7 3
18 7 4
18 7 4
18 8 3
18 9 4
18 10 5
18 11 4
18 12 5
19 2 3
19 3 2
19 4 2
19 4 3
19 4 4
19 4 4
19 5 2
19 5 3
19 5 3
19 5 4
19 5 4
19 6 2
19 6 3
19 6 3
19 6 3
19 7 2
19 7 3
19 7 3
19 7 3
19 7 4
19 7 4
19 7 4
19 7 4
19 7 4
19 8 3
19 8 4
19 8 4
19 8 4
19 8 4
19 8 4
19 8 5
19 9 3
19 9 3
19 9 4
19 9 4
19 9 4
19 9 5
19 10 5
19 10 5
19 10 6
19 11 4
19 11 5
19 12 5
19 12 5
20 2 2
20 3 3
20 4 3
20 4 5
20 5 3
20 5 4
20 5 5
20 6 4
20 6 4
20 7 3
20 7 4
20 7 4
20 7 4
20 8 4
20 8 4
20 8 4
20 8 4
20 9 4
20 9 6
20 10 4
20 10 4
20 10 5
20 10 5
20 11 4
20 11 5
20 12 4
21 3 3
21 5 3
21 5 3
21 6 3
21 8 4
21 8 4
21 9 4
21 10 5
21 10 6
21 10 6
21 10 7
21 11 5
21 11 6
21 11 7
21 12 5
21 13 5
22 4 4
22 5 5
22 7 4
22 7 5
22 8 4
22 8 4
22 8 7
22 9 5
22 10 5
22 10 8
22 11 5
22 11 6
22 11 6
22 12 7
22 12 7
22 13 7
22 13 7
22 13 7
22 13 8
22 13 9
22 14 8
23 7 9
23 8 6
23 9 5
23 9 6
23 9 6
23 10 7
23 10 7
23 12 7
23 13 8
23 14 8
23 14 9
23 15 8
24 11 7
24 16 11
25 5 8
25 6 6
25 8 9
25 11 8
26 10 9
(edited)
The odd age, and or weeks to pop may be slightly wrong. Its hard to know how which weeks I did stamina training when looking over Apollo, and the ages are tricky to work out too.
Thanks for posting this.
This is really going to help me work out what's achievable in my training plan - I just haven't trained for long enough to know what to forecast for players over the next few seasons.
This is really going to help me work out what's achievable in my training plan - I just haven't trained for long enough to know what to forecast for players over the next few seasons.
Because I'm bored:
AGE POP TO Weeks
18 4 3
18 6 3
18 7 3
18 8 4
19 2 2
19 3 3
19 3 3
19 4 3
19 4 3
19 6 4
19 7 4
20 3 3
20 4 3
20 8 3
21 7 3
21 8 4
21 8 4
21 8 5
21 9 4
21 10 5
21 10 6
21 10 7
22 7 4
22 8 5
22 10 6
23 9 6
23 9 6
23 10 5(!)
23 10 6
AGE POP TO Weeks
18 4 3
18 6 3
18 7 3
18 8 4
19 2 2
19 3 3
19 3 3
19 4 3
19 4 3
19 6 4
19 7 4
20 3 3
20 4 3
20 8 3
21 7 3
21 8 4
21 8 4
21 8 5
21 9 4
21 10 5
21 10 6
21 10 7
22 7 4
22 8 5
22 10 6
23 9 6
23 9 6
23 10 5(!)
23 10 6
AGE POP TO Weeks
17 6 4
17 7 4
17 8 4
17 9 4
18 1 1
18 2 1
18 3 2
18 4 2
18 4 2
18 5 3
18 5 3
18 6 3
18 6 3
18 6 6
18 6 3
18 7 5
18 7 2
18 7 3
18 7 4
18 8 4
18 8 4
18 8 3
18 9 3
18 9 3
18 10 3
18 10 4
18 10 4
18 10 3
18 11 4
18 11 4
18 11 4
18 11 3
18 12 4
18 12 4
18 12 5
19 3 2
19 4 2
19 4 3
19 5 2
19 5 2
19 5 3
19 6 3
19 6 3
19 7 3
19 9 4
19 9 4
19 10 4
19 10 4
19 13 5
20 10 4
20 11 4
(edited)
17 6 4
17 7 4
17 8 4
17 9 4
18 1 1
18 2 1
18 3 2
18 4 2
18 4 2
18 5 3
18 5 3
18 6 3
18 6 3
18 6 6
18 6 3
18 7 5
18 7 2
18 7 3
18 7 4
18 8 4
18 8 4
18 8 3
18 9 3
18 9 3
18 10 3
18 10 4
18 10 4
18 10 3
18 11 4
18 11 4
18 11 4
18 11 3
18 12 4
18 12 4
18 12 5
19 3 2
19 4 2
19 4 3
19 5 2
19 5 2
19 5 3
19 6 3
19 6 3
19 7 3
19 9 4
19 9 4
19 10 4
19 10 4
19 13 5
20 10 4
20 11 4
(edited)
Okay here is mine in the same format
16 1 1
16 2 2
16 3 2
17 3 3
17 4 4
17 5 4
17 7 2
17 8 3
17 9 5
19 1 3
19 2 3
19 3 4
19 6 5
20 2 4
20 3 6
21 6 5
22 7 4
22 8 5
22 10 6
23 7 6
23 8 6
23 11 7
24 8 9
24 8 9
24 10 11
26 7 11
16 1 1
16 2 2
16 3 2
17 3 3
17 4 4
17 5 4
17 7 2
17 8 3
17 9 5
19 1 3
19 2 3
19 3 4
19 6 5
20 2 4
20 3 6
21 6 5
22 7 4
22 8 5
22 10 6
23 7 6
23 8 6
23 11 7
24 8 9
24 8 9
24 10 11
26 7 11
I have collated all of the information posted in this thread and wacked it in Excel.
Take a look here, it gives average lengths to pop for each skill against weeks.
If people want the Excel file for this as a template for other training SK mail me and i'll send it over.
It would be great if i could get more samples to make the data even more accurate.
Please give me feedback on anything, or how to make it better.
Take a look here, it gives average lengths to pop for each skill against weeks.
If people want the Excel file for this as a template for other training SK mail me and i'll send it over.
It would be great if i could get more samples to make the data even more accurate.
Please give me feedback on anything, or how to make it better.
This is the data I had Before adding the English data. It is not translated but it's easy to understand. It has been collected directly from users so I think it is relatively correct. It consists of only best times to pop. I hope it would be usefull to you. I have also some data conserning other skills if somebody want it he should write me in SK@
Legend
*годишни=years old ; до=to; седмици = weeks
бързина(pace)
16 годишни
1 седмица до незадоволително(2)
2 седмици до лошо(3)
2 седмици до слабо(4)
17 годишни
2 седмици до лошо(3)
2 седмици до слабо(4)
3 седмици до средно(5)
3 седмици до адекватно(6)
3 седмици до добро(7)
3 седмици до много добро(9)
18 годишни
2 седмици до незадоволително (2)
2 седмици до лошо (3)
3 седмици до слабо(4)
3 седмици до средно(5)
3 седмици до адекватно(6)
3 седмици до солидно(8)
3 седмици до много добро (9)
3 седмици до отлично (10)
19 годишни
5 седмици до много добро (9)
5 седмици до отлично (10)
5 седмици до невероятно(13)
20 годишни
3 седмици до адекватно (6)
3 седмици до стабилно (8)
21 годишни
6 седмици до стабилно (8)
22 годишни
4 седмици до добро (7)
6 седмици до отлично (10)
23 годишни
5 седмици до много добро (9)
7 седмици до изключително(12)
24 годишни
5 седмици до прекрасен(11)
Legend
*годишни=years old ; до=to; седмици = weeks
бързина(pace)
16 годишни
1 седмица до незадоволително(2)
2 седмици до лошо(3)
2 седмици до слабо(4)
17 годишни
2 седмици до лошо(3)
2 седмици до слабо(4)
3 седмици до средно(5)
3 седмици до адекватно(6)
3 седмици до добро(7)
3 седмици до много добро(9)
18 годишни
2 седмици до незадоволително (2)
2 седмици до лошо (3)
3 седмици до слабо(4)
3 седмици до средно(5)
3 седмици до адекватно(6)
3 седмици до солидно(8)
3 седмици до много добро (9)
3 седмици до отлично (10)
19 годишни
5 седмици до много добро (9)
5 седмици до отлично (10)
5 седмици до невероятно(13)
20 годишни
3 седмици до адекватно (6)
3 седмици до стабилно (8)
21 годишни
6 седмици до стабилно (8)
22 годишни
4 седмици до добро (7)
6 седмици до отлично (10)
23 годишни
5 седмици до много добро (9)
7 седмици до изключително(12)
24 годишни
5 седмици до прекрасен(11)
Thank you. I am considering doing what i've done for every skill, though it would be very time consuming.
I don't think it matters too much if these are "best times to pop"...as talent hasn't been a factor in this research, it's more of just an idea.
Overall i would expect talent to be just over average.
I don't think it matters too much if these are "best times to pop"...as talent hasn't been a factor in this research, it's more of just an idea.
Overall i would expect talent to be just over average.
Looks pretty decent, we could do with more data though, just to help get a good average. I can see that even with the data we have there are a fair few unexpected results.
Yep, for example the average speeds to very good for a 17yo are 4 and for 18yo and 19yo they are 3.40 and 3.88 respectively.
Just got to persuade more people to geeky and give us the data!
Just got to persuade more people to geeky and give us the data!
my data for pace training..
AGE Pop To Weeks
17 5 2
17 6 4
17 7 4
17 8 4
17 9 1
18 7 2
18 8 3
18 9 3
18 7 1
18 8 4
18 9 3
18 10 4
18 2 1
18 3 2
18 4 3
18 5 3
18 6 2
18 7 2
18 8 3
18 7 3
18 8 3
18 9 3
18 10 3
18 6 1
18 7 3
18 8 3
18 9 4
19 7 3
19 8 4
19 9 4
19 8 2
19 9 4
19 7 3
19 8 4
19 9 4
20 11 5
20 12 5
20 4 2
20 5 3
20 6 3
I hope to do an update when I stop pace training and start with def training again. Maybe you can remind me in week 10 next season?
AGE Pop To Weeks
17 5 2
17 6 4
17 7 4
17 8 4
17 9 1
18 7 2
18 8 3
18 9 3
18 7 1
18 8 4
18 9 3
18 10 4
18 2 1
18 3 2
18 4 3
18 5 3
18 6 2
18 7 2
18 8 3
18 7 3
18 8 3
18 9 3
18 10 3
18 6 1
18 7 3
18 8 3
18 9 4
19 7 3
19 8 4
19 9 4
19 8 2
19 9 4
19 7 3
19 8 4
19 9 4
20 11 5
20 12 5
20 4 2
20 5 3
20 6 3
I hope to do an update when I stop pace training and start with def training again. Maybe you can remind me in week 10 next season?
Umm, your data looks a little strange...you've got a level 9 pop taking 1 week, a level 7 pop took 1 week...have you included incomplete pops as i don't want these!
AGE Pop To Weeks
17 5 2
17 6 3
17 6 3
17 7 4
17 8 4
18 2 1
18 3 2
18 4 3
18 7 3
18 8 4
18 8 4
18 8 4
18 9 4
18 9 4
18 10 5
19 11 5
19 8 4
19 9 4
20 11 5
23 6 5
23 8 5
23 8 6
24 9 7
24 9 7
24 10 8
17 5 2
17 6 3
17 6 3
17 7 4
17 8 4
18 2 1
18 3 2
18 4 3
18 7 3
18 8 4
18 8 4
18 8 4
18 9 4
18 9 4
18 10 5
19 11 5
19 8 4
19 9 4
20 11 5
23 6 5
23 8 5
23 8 6
24 9 7
24 9 7
24 10 8
got 2 questions:
1: whats wrong in including trainess who have been injured for a week?
injuries are straight forward to deal with. They give no training (not even general training) for that week.
2: Is general training included in this research?
If not, you need to make sure that all these lads submitting their training pops do not have general training in between pops.
Anyone like me who changes training types on a regular basis would only be able to contribute where a full pop has occured in an extended round of pace training.
(edited)
1: whats wrong in including trainess who have been injured for a week?
injuries are straight forward to deal with. They give no training (not even general training) for that week.
2: Is general training included in this research?
If not, you need to make sure that all these lads submitting their training pops do not have general training in between pops.
Anyone like me who changes training types on a regular basis would only be able to contribute where a full pop has occured in an extended round of pace training.
(edited)