Subject: Future Star Pulls

Bill Christopher, age: 16
club: Busby`s Babes, country: England
value: 30 150 £, wage: 495 £
very good form, tragic tactical discipline

unsatisfactory stamina : tragic keeper
average pace : tragic defender
adequate technique : adequate playmaker
average passing : good striker

Excellent+0, 3.33 talent (proof in player notes)

Nice player and don´t want to spoil your fun, but that`s actually 3.5 talent. I guess that doesn`t change his pops pace. In case of 3.3 talent he should have 2 three week pops in a row.

You are right, either way I wish he was mine. :)

Surely you can only base a talent calculation on the pops the player's has actually had? Who can say categorically whether his next pop would have been 3 or 4?

If he was in JS a longer he could have popped 3,4,3,3,4,3,3,4 etc. (equivalent to 3.33) or 3,4,3,4,3,4 etc. (equivalent to 3.5)

To illustrate my point, I've had a junior pop 4,5,4,4,5,4,4. If he'd have promoted after only 3 pops (4,5,4,), and based on what your suggesting, I would have to quote his talent at 4.5, yet you can see his true was 4.33.

So why does it work the way your suggesting?
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I would call him 3.33 - 3 complete pops in 10 weeks

obviously if he had stayed in the youth squad for another 7 pops he could have ended up as good as 3.1 or as bad as 3.8 or something. It is up to the buyer to work out such trivia - the seller should simply report the pops and and divide by weeks. 3.5 would be a totally arbitrary description for this player

The 3.5 talent is just based on the graph. You can`t assume it`s better or worse, because there is no way you could find it out. That`s just how the graphs are being read here. 3-4-3 = is 3.5 talent and 3-3-4 = 3.3 talent.

3.5 talent is roughly the worst talent possible based upon the graph.

He could in theory be 3.1 talent based on the same graph. Its just a snap shot, you can't say with any confidence whether the next pop would be in 3 or 4 weeks.

Danny Martinelli solid 19

2 consecutive 3 weeks pops

could come out brilliant 17yo end of next season

Of course you are right. I actually don`t care if his talent is 3.5 or better, he fits my standards:)

I am just teaching him how to read the graph, that`s where I am aiming. That was honestly my only intention.

Well I'm not convinced by what you are teaching.

If you see a graph like that I would state 3.33, the talent is 3.1-3.5 so its not exactly a bad approximation.

unless the devs are actually going to set some rules in stone we just should say what we see - 3.33 - and not bring in assumptions. They will only cause confusion because they are not widely known and someone else could easily be using different rules

I even don´t know how to answer anymore.

What I am trying to say is that the graph we are talking about says the talent is 3.5...Those are only assumptions, if you say it`s 3.3 or even better. There is no way to prove it. Of course there is a slight possibility it can be better, but according to THIS graph it`s 3.5. arghh...

I officially feel like a nerd now..lol

I have updated the thread, just missing one player at the moment who remains in the Academy from Enjoi.

Any more guys?

@ ermejo, you posted a couple a page or so back, any chance I could have more info such as date to be pulled etc? Thanks. :)

Well I have had several players who have started with a three week pop, then 4-3-4-3 etc...

It's reminding me of the minus 0 thread in International...i am struggling to see how the graph that steelers has produced can be 3.5...it is simple math no? Divide the length of pop by the number of pop to find the average pop. This is not 3.5 but 3.33~?
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the future is unknowable

we do have these complete pops to work with

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how you add this to 3.5 I don't know - you seem to just be saying it's 3.5 unless I see consecutive pops - thats just some rule you made up - I prefer maths. 10/3 = 3.333333