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Subject: »[JNRS]Juniors

2009-12-25 23:42:08
I think at the end of the day once you average the pops and time in school you can get a talent reading anyway.

How? When talent is up and down like a whore's drawers each week, averaging the pops is meaningless.

2009-12-26 00:01:43
father crimbo, give me a nice sack of juniors tommorow please!
2009-12-26 09:12:18
We don't know that the pops will be up and down now though do we? I am under the assumption and hoping that the coaches assessments will be more meaningful now that games are being played.
2009-12-26 09:59:52
Without any games last week the coach's estimates were 0-2 levels above or below the true appraisal. This week after playing 14 of them the majority of those players' appraisals are still wrong. So, for new and existing juniors I'm assuming a 2 level margin of error and probably 4 weeks of consecutive matches before the assessment is reasonably accurate. Then, depending on pops, 3->10 weeks consecutive matches to get an idea of talent. Visible ages do help to screen some of the dross, but with
uncertainty over actual skill then arguably a similar number will be retained when otherwise they wouldn't (i.e. you'd keep a adequate 4 but not a weak 4; but now you have no way of telling which is which, or, in this example, enough time to find out). Consequently I think most people will end up with full junior schools and a backlog of juniors needing to be played in matches. The only way to mitigate that will be to stop playing the ones that you get an idea of talent for, and then just apply that pop speed to the remaining weeks. There'll be no point keeping players in for a second pop when there are still players waiting for matches.
Being able to watch the matches is a bonus for Sokker, but personally I'm not too interested as the competition is meaningless - I'm not normally bothered to watch friendlies either, and the juniors play like cares in the community anyhow. The only point to the matches in my view is to justify the changed junior system, or perhaps it's the other way round. I can't see how, other than more matches to watch, it helps new players to the game - the cost of a full school and high level coaches makes playing the junior lottery with success out of reach to new players, unless they want to bankrupt themselves. Anyway, that's enough moaning, all we can do is make the best of it as we're stuck with it! ;-)
2009-12-26 10:09:25
I have not got time at the moment to discuss in detail, but I am sure the more games played the more accurate the coaches assessmenty is. There has only been one game so far. Sorry Boxing Day and Family thing to go to. ;)
2009-12-26 10:17:07
Wuss! ;-) fortify yourself with a few gallons of claret and we'll have a proper rant-off! My lot haven't arrived yet, but I suppose I'd better get dressed before they do.
2009-12-26 10:26:01
Best I have ever had - I hope he is talented (even modestly)

Boxing Day present

Craig Ilderton 17 good GK 34
2009-12-26 19:36:52
except GOOD is completely unknowable... he could just as easily be average or worse. and the GK bit seems not to be too accurate at the moment. i would play him each week so you at least get some idea of talent
2009-12-31 00:57:29
Got £200k+ from him, bonus! Think it was helped by the nice looking graph that the coaches helpfully mucked up, don't think he had any talent!
2009-12-31 11:21:37
and there was me thinking that the most a Magical JC would be out by on junior assessment, would be 2 levels...


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2009-12-31 13:01:40
Kenneth Tyson, age: 18

club: Maleldil, country: England
value: 25 200 £, wage: 450 £
very good form, tragic tactical discipline
height: 184 cm

unsatisfactory stamina hopeless keeper
unsatisfactory pace good defender
unsatisfactory technique average playmaker
adequate passing tragic striker

any good? Would have been a perfect pace trainee if not for the technique...
2009-12-31 14:24:07
he cant be any more than solid no?


heres mine, supposed to be excellent

Nick Blythe, age: 18

club: Alkington FC, country: England
value: 29 400 £, wage: 495 £
very good form, tragic tactical discipline
height: 187 cm

poor stamina hopeless keeper
hopeless pace hopeless defender
good technique average playmaker
tragic passing solid striker
2009-12-31 14:55:25
you never know now with the coach mistakes and all... but yeah, solid or thereabouts
2009-12-31 15:20:45
he could be a decent defender, luckily enough defenders dont need that good stamina
2010-01-02 14:44:33
joined today; poor 23

ive had nothing but crap for about 2 months now, anyone else same experience?
2010-01-02 15:10:15
I have not had any decent ones for a while now either....