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Subject: Youth school

2010-01-22 12:43:54
I have a very expensive training set up and I reckon it easily pays for itself every single season. Selling on fees amount to about 125 000 a season and there is always either a million pound trainee to sell or a million pound trainee that I can keep.

It is a bargain in my opinion. Despite the cost..
2010-01-22 13:47:03
considered it many times but for me it was profitable after 8 months of continious losses, which I offset with the sale of just one formidable player with good talent. The second sale after 3 months made me a profit. :)
I would not recommend you give it up.
2010-01-22 13:48:06
Forgot to mention I also have 4 players from Junior School in my first 11.
2010-01-22 15:03:00
im looking to pull the plug on my junior school, and save 400k a season ..
the new junior school system is more hassle than its worth ..
i may give it a couple of more weeks, then stop it ..
just think that england will need the players in the long term .. less junior schools means less top player in the long run
2010-01-22 15:31:50
Well if we do not have managers with youth schools then the chances are that we will be an extremely weak nation at both U21 and Full NT level....which for me would be quite a sad thing.

I will not be scrapping my youth school as I have 2 Juniors now that I am training. Coatsworth would have cost me 1m easily when first pulled and the other new guy similar. This means I am already in profit with talented youths to train (known talent too). This doesn't even include the trainees sold for money.

There is also the gate money from the youth matches plus the added fun of watching the rubbish players try and shoot. ;)
2010-01-22 22:20:54
The pro's just out weighed the con's for me.

With the money ill save I could just buy a trainee every season.

As you say the downside is the NT, but very few of my sold youths have been involved in the NT anyway.

I wonder if the youth school pops will be more consistant if you don't play the youth matches?
2010-01-22 22:23:00
They would be more inconsistent.

It will be a shame if you do choose to close your academy down I have to say.....
2010-01-22 22:59:40
To late mate

I'll be keeping the youth coach till thursday.

I wouldn't do it if I was worse than I am, but 1.2million could buy a decent trainee every season anyway.

I could spend the money on upgrading the stadium every season and make even more profit, the list is endless.

It has more consistency to it, than just playing pot luck on the junior system. Even then you have to wait a couple of seasons until they come out, so they have all ready cost me 1million in coach expenses.

I'm not recommending it to anyone I just think its the best decision for me and one I'm looking forward to.

I doubt I'm not the only one in sokker who has done this.
2010-01-22 23:50:56
Maybe not......we will see what happens.
2010-01-22 23:55:40
Where has your 1.2m figure came from?

I just tallied up my expenses.

I have an Unearthly Youth Coach on £35,000 costing me £562,000 per season

Then took an average of 24 spaces open at £600 per week x 16 weeks and got £230,000

It comes to exactly £792,600 which is easily £400,000 less than you state.....am I missing something?

Plus you get gate money from the games now even if its minimal.

Then finally everybody gets a sellable junior per season at least.........your figures are really confusing me now.
2010-01-23 01:12:53
It's gate receipts for the season plus the end of season bonus plus the money saved from not having a junior coach.

I'm guessing sponsorship - coach/player wages and other expenses balance each other out, so then it's £1.2m to spend each season on a player.
2010-01-23 01:29:06
Thats not making sense to me, surely we are talking about the savings of not having the Juinor School only?
2010-01-23 09:45:34
You don't have to be spending 35k on a junior coach. Despite popular belief that you do, I have had mostly incredibles and brilliants for half that cost (even now I spend 22k on a magical). You can easily get away with 15k a week. Then you only look at £290k a season on wages a season for the coach. If you run at an average of 15 spaces being more picky, then the total junior costs are then 450k.

So you get the benefit of saving expenses. At the same time when you factor in crowds, money for juniors, not having to buy trainees and 5% future sell on fees, even a bad run on juniors you don't lose too much money and a good player every few seasons would easily see a profit.
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2010-01-23 10:58:01
Thats the point I was trying to make, mine are excessive costs and thats why I was confused by the 1.2m.

I feel overall I am in profit with my youth school plus I have some nice striker trainees from it, and thats only going to continue imo. Plus I have had some nice sales too, others have had some much better sales than me too.
2010-01-23 11:30:13
dale is saying that by closing the junior school he ends up with a totall of £1.2m to spend on trainees each season as opposed to say £500k.

i'm pretty sure with lower sales and one or 2 big ones a term i break even or better, but i am frustrated that i have never had a top draw - my best pulls have been 20yrs or rubbish distribution. you have to admit that with as many seasons as i have (i opened it in the first week) i really should have had at least 1 lucky pull by now
2010-01-23 11:56:31
I agree but you will find they are like London Buses, ask ermejo he got about 4m worth in the space of 2 weeks iirc?

Mine have been more spread. I actually mis-calculated - I have 3 of my 6 striker trainees from my youth school now.

They were all worth I think around £5m together......thats not so bad is it?

Judging their value now is hard but I would say Coatsworth £3.5m, Julian £1m, Oulton £2m. I am happy with the youth school and WILL NEVER lose it.

If I relegate I would rather get rid of other expenses first.