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Subject: [NT] WCQ Vs South Africa

2010-05-22 19:52:08
thx for apreciating my tactic:) anyway it didn`t worked oput ant south africa wont play WC this season
2010-05-22 21:53:46
So let me get this straight. You designed a tactic for South Africa to use against us? so you were helping another NT manager from the same WCQ group to try and defeat England? Is there some rule against this at all? Surely it goes against fair play and sportsmanship? The Polish NT coach helping the South African NT coach to try and defeat England, anyone else think this is wrong?
2010-05-22 23:35:36
Have to agree. At best it is morally bankrupt to do something like that.
2010-05-22 23:41:41
Im glad its not just me! It seems as though they designed tactics for each others games as the polish tactic was named after brokus, to me that is arrogant and so wrong, I am actually quite annoyed about it. How the hell can it be right to do this? Surely it braeches some kind of nt rule somewhere? It cant be right that they can design a tactic for each others NT teams?
2010-05-23 00:17:59
No no no ;] it wasn't like loczenty said;/ We are friends and we are talking much about sokker and tactics;] It was my tactic which I used.. loczenty said that it was his tactic because my defenders played similar to his in one of his league match.

Is there some rule against this at all?

No

ed. name of tactic is a free-form, next time i will name tatic : 'jpk030876'
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2010-05-23 00:52:38
I haven't time for this now, but I am fairly certain setting tactics for a manager in the same group as you is both collusive and immoral. It is also going against the fair play rules of Sokker.
2010-05-23 01:00:59
If thats the case it seems very strange that you each named your tactics after each other, then loczenty comes out and says that HIS tactic worked well in YOUR game. Just seems like your trying to back track. But I guess no rules have been broken as you say, just moral rules i guess.
2010-05-23 02:11:15
So let me get this straight. You designed a tactic for South Africa to use against us?

not directly, i just used the idea of deep def, convinced brokus to use it against you, but the tactic was made by brokus himself.

anyway allpeople know me and brokus know each other and are friends. but i played agains him normal way, have beaten him, so there is no illegal halp (wich i could probably provive loosing against him for example).
so please dont be so suspicious
2010-05-23 09:55:10
not directly, i just used the idea of deep def, convinced brokus to use it against you, but the tactic was made by brokus himself.

But right there you have admitted to helping another NT manager from the same WCQ group in a match against another NT from the same group havent you?

Like I said, we won and it didnt effect the game in the end, but it could have, so that to me makes it morally wrong. Im sure Mourinho doesnt ring up Ferguson and ask him how he can defeat Munich as an example, he would do the scouting and do the tactics for the match himself.

And i know you wouldnt lose on purpose against brokus so that he could qualify, that would be to obvious.
2010-05-23 10:28:47
But right there you have admitted to helping another NT manager from the same WCQ group in a match against another NT from the same group havent you?
sure, yes. it is game, wa are friends and play the game together.

Like I said, we won and it didnt effect the game in the end, but it could have, so that to me makes it morally wrong
you cannot play and have fun, cant you?

Im sure Mourinho doesnt ring up Ferguson and ask him how he can defeat Munich as an example, he would do the scouting and do the tactics for the match himself.
what`s wrong if he`d really did? it is normal, that you ask for advice when you play your game of the sason, isn`t it?

2010-05-23 10:51:06
Just think, you'd be larched if England didn't win :)
2010-05-23 11:47:04
England was lucky... in second game i believe that luck will be in my hand;D
2010-05-23 12:00:12
Not sure about the "wrongness" of this :

1) If B was logged in, and L actually made the tactic for him, either by using remote logging, or in person yes, absolutely wrong.

2) If B had a chat about this with L, and then set a tactic on the basis of that chat, I can't see much wrong there. The tactic is still Bs' to mess about with / put his slant on.

B could just as easily have looked at Ls' recent matches for inspiration, it's not like the tactics are any big secret once they are used in a match. And arguably jpk would have just beaten the Polish NT coach if he used S Africas' players, so I'd say that bodes well for our next match against Poland.
2010-05-23 12:01:48
You goal difference isn't good enough at the moment to cause England a problem.
2010-05-23 13:26:59
u mean luck will be in 'locz' hand ;)
2010-05-23 14:06:15
I agree with ncn's aka Mary Whitehouse