Subject: Streamlined thoughts - help required please?

I have at present these 5 coaches (below) but I cannot sustain or justify their wages. I'm currently training DEF so ideally I'd like to keep just 2 of these coaches, one as my main coach and the other as my junior coach.

Junior Coach
Ricky Price, age: 60,
wage: 32 985 £
club:DLR Reserves, country: England,
unearthly coach
Training effectiveness:
unearthly (16) of stamina magical (15) of keeper
unearthly (16) of pace magical (15) of defender
unearthly (16) of technique unearthly (16) of playmaker
unearthly (16) of passing unearthly (16) of striker

Main Coach
Carl Hayes, age: 36,
wage: 20 460 £
club: DLR Reserves, country: England,
brilliant coach
Training effectiveness:
outstanding (12) of stamina formidable (11) of keeper
brilliant (14) of pace unearthly (16) of defender
unearthly (16) of technique unearthly (16) of playmaker
magical (15) of passing unearthly (16) of striker

Assistant Coaches
Rob Tolley, age: 64
wage: 30 045 £
club: DLR Reserves, country: England,
magical coach
Training effectiveness:
unearthly (16) of stamina unearthly (16) of keeper
outstanding (12) of pace brilliant (14) of defender
unearthly (16) of technique magical (15) of playmaker
brilliant (14) of passing unearthly (16) of striker

Sean Gresham, age: 39
wage: 24 285 £
club: DLR Reserves, country: England,
magical coach
Training effectiveness:
brilliant (14) of stamina brilliant (14) of keeper
unearthly (16) of pace magical (15) of defender
magical (15) of technique unearthly (16) of playmaker
brilliant (14) of passing unearthly (16) of striker

Oliver Tompsett, age: 37
wage: 18 150 £
club: DLR Reserves, country: England,
incredible coach
Training effectiveness:
unearthly (16) of stamina hopeless (1) of keeper
unearthly (16) of pace brilliant (14) of defender
very good (9) of technique unearthly (16) of playmaker
unearthly (16) of passing unearthly (16) of striker

In my own opinion I was looking to sack 3 of these coaches and just leave a Main Coach and a Junior Coach. That would save me in the region of 70-75k a week and therefore be able to make a profit on a fortnightly basis.

Because of the NEW junior talent policy whereby it fluctuates quite considerably I'm seriously considering having a lesser than Unearthly Coach at the helm of them. It's an estimation of talent and even a brilliant coach could predict a reasonable junior. Generally the youths we promote are going to be of some standard anyway and due to the unpredictability of their skill set I don't really believe that an unearthly coach would be crucial or hugely advantageous?!

In the past, I realise that some users have produced good, in-depth research into RANDOM pops from Assistant coaches but I'm not convinced about their worth for training relative to the wages they charge. From the Rules:
The assistants may be helpful to the main coach improving his training effectiveness - the better the assistant (in terms of general appraisal); the more he helps the main coach. However, do not hire too many assistants. If you hire more than 3, they will argue, resulting in training being less effective, or even lost.

Would it be worth purchasing a shocking coach with unearthly DEF and tragic everything else and keep one of the coaches above as an assistant?

I would honestly appreciate any advice or comments on the above post as ultimately I must reduce my wage bill, currently £207k a week. If I owned a business then it would go bust very quickly with the inept financial responsibility I have.

If it's anything to go on as a guideline, I spend 27k a week less on my coaches than you do.

Mine are:

Main:
Matty Craik, age: 67

wage: 30 480 £
club: Mcoi, country: England,
magical coach
Training effectiveness:
very good of stamina magical of keeper
unearthly of pace unearthly of defender
unearthly of technique unearthly of playmaker
unearthly of passing unearthly of striker

Assistants:
Dustin Milton, age: 53

wage: 16 755 £
club: Mcoi, country: England,
brilliant coach
Training effectiveness:
unearthly of stamina excellent of keeper
brilliant of pace unearthly of defender
unearthly of technique brilliant of playmaker
outstanding of passing incredible of striker

Fred Precious, age: 72

wage: 18 630 £
club: Mcoi, country: England,
brilliant coach
Training effectiveness:
incredible of stamina excellent of keeper
unearthly of pace magical of defender
excellent of technique unearthly of playmaker
unearthly of passing unearthly of striker

Jon Simons, age: 62

wage: 19 875 £
club: Mcoi, country: England,
brilliant coach
Training effectiveness:
outstanding of stamina excellent of keeper
unearthly of pace unearthly of defender
unearthly of technique incredible of playmaker
unearthly of passing unearthly of striker

Juniors:
Ivor Bugg, age: 68

wage: 22 455 £
club: Mcoi, country: England,
magical coach
Training effectiveness:
unearthly of stamina outstanding of keeper
unearthly of pace magical of defender
magical of technique magical of playmaker
unearthly of passing formidable of striker

Even with my current coaching setup, I reckon I could save another 5k easily, 10k at a push a week by getting better balance coaches. I think the easiest thing for you would be to ditch your current junior coach for a magical. Difference in quality is negligable and would save 10k a week easy. Your assistants all need changing as are not in the lower area of wages for the skill level they are at.
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You jammy git getting an unearthly JC. God knows how much I've wasted on that devils-spawn of a coach recruitment tool!

Anyway, here's my two-pennies worth on your coaches...

1. Personally I'd keep the Unearthly JC coach - remember the devs just tried to blur our ability to determine junior talent, everything else stayed the same. So the higher the level of a JC, the better a junior trains (the more quickly they acquire skill points).
Although, if you have no decent prospects in the pipeline its a bit of a luxury.

2. Do you train just the defender skill or defenders generally? If it's defenders generally, I think your HC should really be Unearthly in both Defender and Pace as a minimum.

3. Your magical assistants have high wages because they have high GK skills - this really skews coach wages.

4. Defo do not get a rubbish HC with Unearthly Defender skill. I'd imagine your random pops will near-enough dry up. I'd sacrifice 1 assistant to keep a HC with Unearthly Def/Pace and as high as affordable secondary skills in Tech/Passing/PM (and ideally striker and GK as low as possible to get the wage down).

5. My own view is that assistants contribute to general training (maybe 30%, not sure), but random pops are mostly influenced by the HC's individual skills in what isn't being trained.

6. Its helpful if the HC has Unearthly stamina - in my experience it saves training it in trainees.

As an idea I have 2 x brillaint assistants (18k each) + 1 x incredible assistant (13k) - this would save you 23k per week.

Appreciate both posts. I'm losing about 125k per week without a HOME match and about 5-10k if I do. My savings have to be substantial I'm afraid otherwise I just seem to promote some really good quality juniors just to sell on to keep afloat, surely that's not the plan.......however it does bode well for English trainers.

I have 4 youths in the next 3 weeks, 2 brilliant & 2 incredible, unfortunately 2 of them are going to be 19. I think the real star will be here.....

Basil Kemp 17 very good outfield 23

You pay more than me on coaches.

I have an Unearthly Junior Coach which I will never swap.
A Magical Main Coach with a great wage and all Unearthly skills apart from Keeper which is Outstanding.
3 Incredible Assistants all with an ok wage.

If I were you I would keep the JC as an Unearthly, and then try to change your Main Coach unless he has Unearthly skills required in what you train.

Personally I would change your assistants though.
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You jammy git getting an unearthly JC. God knows how much I've wasted on that devils-spawn of a coach recruitment tool!


If you are still looking there is 2 unearthly coaches (both 8 x unearthly) on TL..

Thanks. The trouble is that they always end up going for a couple of million quid, and I can't seem to justify spending that on a coach all in one go.

Somehow the 3+ million I've 'leaked' through the recruitment tool over the seasons seems more palatable ...at the time :(

Yea the prices are quite crazy nowadays.. I have 3 unearthlys and their prices were 384 551 $, 1 084 000 $ and 1 430 000 $ when I bought them, so paying 3-4 million.. thats just stupid. Afterall he difference between magical and unearthly is very small so better use that money to players or something.