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Subject: Weekly Training

2013-11-14 16:12:43
wow he is really nice!
2014-03-14 19:21:42
Forgot to train youngsters again.

*sigh*
Just tried training striker for the first time...remembered to set 3 different attackers with the right orders in my league and cup game.

Then left it on MID.
2014-08-14 22:58:53
I didn't think it mattered - whatever you set, Striker does ATT
2014-08-14 23:15:16
In other words he means he trained his midfielders on striker not his strikers :( he needed to set his training to Att - Striker
2014-08-14 23:32:35
I have had some discussions with some striker trainers in Sokker & they believe that even if you set the striker training to train MIDS it will still give full striker training to the players who have ATT orders.

So maybe the training scenario above is not a disaster after all.
2014-08-14 23:35:47
But what happens to the mids dont they get any striker training then?
2014-08-14 23:46:14
This was all news to me & I've trained strikers for years but this is what I got told below by one user. He thinks the mids get more % striker training doing it in the scenario above that they would if you select the usual way of training ATT's. Apparently this has been tested although I have not yet done it myself. I wasn't sure whether to believe it or not so I asked some other users.

This was what I got told:
"The striker(finishing) training isn't tight to the trained compartment. So even if you select to train striker to MID compartment, the players that played in the ATT compartment will still get normal training. So you'll end up with 6 ATT players that gain maximum training + 10 midfielders that gained 50% training from the training the ATT players got( (50/100* 85/100) or 5 striker that got full training by playing as MID in both matches(Friendly&league).

For the 2nd question, if you train striker for the ATT compartment, the midfielders will get ~25-35%, the residual training is ~25 % and the general training that all the players in the field get is 10%."
2014-08-15 01:44:05
Thats mental, is that only with Striker and not any other skills?

so if i got that right it pays to train striker on mids (because of the extra 25-15% the mids get) or does that read you only get 85% and not 100% on the strikers
2014-08-15 10:43:57
The 85% figure comes from this training % info below that people seem to use. In this instance it would mean the striker playing one official match receives approx 85% of training & a mid would receive 50% of that if striker training was set to MID. But yes what people are saying is that if you trained striker on ATT the striker would receive the 85% figure but the mid would more likely receive approx 25% of that instead of 50% of that.

I would be interested to know if anyone in England has tried this method of training & did it work!

Some training info:

O - official match
F - friendly match
NT - NT match
/ - half of match

O+O = 100%!!!
O+F =~97.5
O+/O=~94
O+NT =~94
O+/F=~92
O+/NT =~90
/O+F =~88
NT +F =~88
O = ~ 85
/O+/O =~85
/O+NT =~85
F+/NT=~82.5
/O+/F=~80
NT+/F =~80
F = ~ 75
/O+/NT=~75
/F+/NT =~70
2014-08-15 10:54:28
Also I don't think it would work for the other skills. If you look at the rules for example it says ATT position trains striker most effectively but it doesn't say you have to pick ATT for the best training.

Compare it to passing & playmaking, it says you can increase the training effect for other positions but this will decrease training for mids. It doesn't say anything like that for striker training.

Compare it to defending & tech, it says it is most intensively trained by the position you select for the week & less so for the other positions. Again it doesn't say that for striker training.

It's all about how you interpret the rules I guess, & then you would need to test it over a period of time while hoping you are not cocking up your training!

Training of striker

Strikers (ATT position) train most effectively, a bit slower the midfielders (MID) and to a little extent, defenders (DEF) and goalkeepers (GK).

Training of passing

Passing is most effectively trained by midfielders (MID), the remaining positions train slower. If you want to enhance the effect of training passing for other positions, you can do so. However, it will result in decreasing the effect of training for midfielders.

Training of playmaking

The training of playmaking is similar to that of passing. The position that profits most from this type of training are midfielders (MID). Similar to training passing, you can also enhance the effectiveness for another position; however, it will also result in decreasing the effect of training for midfielders.

Training of defending (tackling the ball)

You can select the position that will train defending most effectively during the week, you can choose among ATT, MID and DEF. The remaining positions train slower.

Training of technique

Similar to defending, it is most intensively trained by the position selected for the current week.


2014-08-24 20:15:43
That is just insane!?!

I simply have to try it ... but it sounds too good to be true tbh. I have a couple of downsides for the moment which are that I have all of these defenders that I'm training and no coach that can train striker! But, I like the idea of being able to train 16 players in striker ;-) It won't happen anytime soon though ...
2014-08-24 20:32:32
I interpretate that as it says, to me its clear:

Strikers (ATT position) train most effectively, a bit slower the midfielders (MID)

That to me means to get the most effective training give them att position (orders) if you give them mid position orders they wont train aswell but still pretty good, but nowhere does it say if you put the strikers in midfield (orders) the strikers will get full training, i cannot see this being true...
2014-08-24 20:40:18
Did you notice if they got decent training still Jim?
2014-08-24 21:29:22
I wouldn't try and over interpret the rules. They could easily be mis-translated as it is.
(edited)
2014-08-25 21:57:43
Hard to tell as it was first week, and I no longer have Plus so not really tracking.