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2008-07-02 15:50:56
I try not to; they're starting to make me feel old.
2008-07-05 21:11:29
exciting match engine... 40 goals in 80 games with 52 drawzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

anyone still playing?
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2008-07-05 21:46:54
..buying players seems next to impossible also... pile of sh*te...

still.. maybe in the fullness of time.. it will mature like a fine wine..neigh, a catipillar into a fantastic footballing butterfly..

or maybe not.
2008-07-05 21:48:08
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2008-07-05 21:50:35
actually.. I hadn't checked on the matches..(didnt even realise they were on a Saturday)

I have now racked up 5 consecutive 0-0 draws...

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this totally blows.
2008-07-06 00:19:37
Dylanos the best attack in England now is 3 of 30, do you think really this is enough to score goals?

Please take a look to another countrys like Deustchland or Italy with the sames weeks old, or please take a look Argentina or Spain in his firsts dvision and you have GOOD attacks and more goals, so its very dificult if you have two very bad strikers and your enemy have four litle bad defenders...

In my first time play in PES i have to spend 2 weeks to score one goal ...
2008-07-06 00:26:45
mate, have you ever watched lower league football? or even Sunday league pub teams? they are full or talentless, over weight muppets with virtually no striking ability whatsoever... and... amazingly.. 0-0 draws are fairly rare...
2008-07-06 08:54:50
exactly... lower league football tends towards rugby or even cricket scores
2008-07-06 10:24:54
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2008-07-06 10:25:22
Is not rare, please take a look to others leagues where his managers change and scout his enemys to play good matchs with goos attack and good defense ...

The first steaps are ver dificult, so Nobody told you this was a EASY Game.


Please take a look other first division, For Example:

France= 10 goals in last week
France was created the same day that England but French users are rising his teams and hard training his players.

Spain= 27 goals in last week
Spain has 3 seasons old, all manager are very experimented and competitive teams.

Schweiz: 15 goals in last week
France was created the same day that England but French users are rising his teams and hard training his players.


0-0 is not responsability of the Motor Game, is responsability of the managers play this match and his players.


Repeat: Nobody told you this was a EASY Game
2008-07-06 12:23:19
Blimey mate, calm down. You aren't going to get people interested with an aggressive tone like that.

All we are saying is that is is bloody unrealistic, not hard. Your local pub football team tends to score 4 or 5 goals a game, lower leagues tend to get lots of goals...You take a look at the premiership and the top european, and you get a LOT of 1-0, 1-1, 0-0 type scorelines.
2008-07-06 14:09:38
But, if your attack is 1 level better than the defense of your opponent (not talking yet about if your attack level is worse) and 4-5 goals are scored, what would happen when the attack is 10 level better than the deffense, 50 goals?
2008-07-06 16:05:33
Strictly speaking, you don't get a mismatch in football like that.

If a premiership team plays a non league, i would expect they could easily put in 20+ goals

At this level, you can almost say that your attack and def are the same as each other, and that possession would dictate goals + goalkeeper.

It would certainly give more appeal to the game if the lower levels were more exciting....if you say that when we get to the "premiership standard" we are all supposed to score 4-5 goals each, i would still be calling the game crap because that is unrealistic too.
2008-07-06 16:49:18
It would certainly give more appeal to the game if the lower levels were more exciting....if you say that when we get to the "premiership standard" we are all supposed to score 4-5 goals each, i would still be calling the game crap because that is unrealistic too.

I would have agreed with you when I started, I found it just a boring game, but once you start the focus the attacks (I've been looking at your matches and I've realised you do not focus, try to do it and you'll see how your attacks are more efficient) and you start to take it seriously, you'll see how fun can see to start to promote divisions (however, you are in Premier ¬¬'..) and things go harder, and you have take the best of your brain to plan the matches, and that, I think, is a point that Sokker usually doesn't give. Here, if you have a divine player with technique you can reach the goal easly, in ProFurgol, one incredible player can be neutralized with 3-4 good guys, like in real life, where Ibrahimovic would found difficult to overcome from a Villarreal defense, for example, alone.
I know that Sokker offers the visor, which no other game does, and thats a huge point to consider, but ProFurgol is completely new and has a proud future in front, and also a visor is not denyed yet. Perhaps it shouldn't be compared with Sokker (completely different), it should be done with HT, which I think its much worse than Profurgol.

Once given my opinion about the game (perhaps not interesting ^^) I would answer your post about the lack of goals.
At your matches I've seen you use a predetermined tactic, first mistake.
You have to prepare each match individually, the best team is that can use a bigger range of tactics, the surprise gives you points in this game.
Second, what I have said, you do not focus your attacks and that is a lost of oportunities...
And at the end, related with the two before, put the player in the zone that you wanna attack. For example, if you wanna use the central attack, is useless to play with wingers.

If you need any other advice I'll be here, but seriusly, try to correct that mistakes and I'm sure you will start to win the matches, I'm sure.

Good luck ;)
2008-07-06 17:51:50
i havent got aggresive tone, only i give you some data for you can see in this game more teams scores goals usually but this teams need to know the rules and how attack his oponent.

My english is poor if my answers are like aggresive tone, I'm sorry very much. Only i try to give you arguments and data.
2008-07-06 17:55:40
Bit hard to know what to do with the game when you can't understand it :)

I'm not fussed if i win lose or draw, i was commenting on game versus real life, not your game versus sokker :)