Subject: Happy July 4th!

I think that the Oil issue is causing quite a world wide ripple right now......

I agree that Tony Blair was also awful.....in fact the Labour reign so far has been awful.

However much I want them out now, the alternatives are pretty poor also.....in general politicians seems to be cooked to the core.

Sheesh, what a bunch of whiners you've all become!
Pardon me for saying but you got a GREAT country, a wonderful one by any standard. Keep the whining to a minimum and the slacking as public enemy #1 and you'll gobble up the competition in no time. I wonder why the Brits need an international crisis to rise up to their true capabilities?
The best possible answer to July 4th, from a British perspective, would be just one word... quality rather than quantity!
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Power should never be given to people that want it.

Hmm - but there again, if the alternative is a Monarchy run by King Charles in a few years...
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Well - last time I checked Golden Brown (Texture like Sun) wasn't getting into bed with mad gun-toting loons for a new war, or nobbling eminent scientists in order have a pre-text for doing so.

dont this guy know anything about the wars? he may be joking but the americans only came into ww1 when we were winning and they picked our side for that reason only, same in ww2

He's talking about a much earlier war. It's understandable you don't know much about it, it was an away fixture, and the papers didn't really pick up on it here. They were always favourites, as it's difficult to re-supply over 5000 miles of water. But let them have their moment, they get so few these days.

As their empire fades, they will learn to be as graceful about it as the people of our faded empire.
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This country used to be a great country due to discipline, in schools, workplaces and in general life.

However we have become a country where normal people are scared for their kids futures due to Knife crime, lack of jobs, house prices being out of reach for young people.

I can list hundreds of things......yes we have a far better country than other less fortunate places namely Zimbabwe as an example. However I guraantee you that this country is going down hill very quickly. Every week thousands of English people are moving away to other countries, Australia, New Zealand, even USA.

We have a country where literally millions from other countries are being allowed in, according to our governement this is to supplement the work force and ensure that our benefits/pensions system if fed to the level required to support the pensioners etc.

The short sightedness of this is that what the hell are people like me in my 30's going to retire on? There just will not be a state pension when I retire.

Hell I could rant on about this for ages....but I suppose I had better get on with some work. lol

Hell I could rant on about this for ages....but I suppose I had better get on with some work. lol

why should you work ? it's not like working hard will provide you with pension :)

July 4 = The day the Yanks told the Brits to PISS OFF!

I disagree. Do you think other countries don't have the exact same problems and issues you described?
Exactly the same and worse!
No offence meant but that is what I was talking about with regard to whining.
However I do agree on the lack of discipline issue. Britain was and still is blessed with so much... discipline can make it become an empire (of some sorts) again! That is why the Iron Lady was so good for you. GBrown is a mere dirty brown stripe on the British parliament seat and is definitely not the way forward!

Curiously, most of the rest of the year the Brits usually tell the yanks to piss off...

i have to say it tends to be us oldies :) that apreciate the fact that the labor government is still better than the other options. the global economy is going to sh*t, and that is what is being felt by Britain at an accelerated level since 9/11. It is scary to think what situation the country would be in under a conservative government. For those of us who remember the 80's the answer is that a few people would be getting rich off the poverty of everyone else. a return to the yuppies of the upper middle calsses? no thanks.

Its the do gooders that cause these discipline issues though...saying you can't do this and that!!!

thanks giving = the day the yanks told the native americans to p*ss off! nice.
December 14th, 2003 = the day the Iraqi people started telling the US to p*ss off... isn't it time you guys listened? it is their country you know. unless you buy it off them for glass beads and whisky in which case you can apparently keep it
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For those of us who remember the 80's the answer is that a few people would be getting rich off the poverty of everyone else. a return to the yuppies of the upper middle calsses? no thanks

Um, scuse me, but wasn't it the Labour government who recently increased the taxes of the lowest paid people in the country ? Thought so.

The tories now recognise the need for bigger government than they used to. If you don't like them, I'd stay where the zebra is cheap, as it looks like we're going to be stuck with them in a couple of years time.

To be honest, that kind of irked me that did.

America gets "attacked" by people carrying Saudi passports, who were uni students in Germany, and who were trained on the Afghan / Pakistan border.

I know what we'll do to retaliate, we'll invade Iraq. Weird.