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Subject: England or Germany?
neuer made 2 top quality fingertip saves, that coupled with Lampards goal gives us 4 goals.
We came apart going for the equaliser, Germany weren't that good and could only get through because of our hopelessly slow defense.
Of course we expect to win the cup, we're one of the best teams in the world, we beat the germans in there own back yard with our B team the last time we played. We drew to Holland, just lost out to Brazil and qualified with a near perfect record, if we performed we would have won the WC and could have hammered Germany today if things had gone differently and you're mad if you cant see that.
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We came apart going for the equaliser, Germany weren't that good and could only get through because of our hopelessly slow defense.
Of course we expect to win the cup, we're one of the best teams in the world, we beat the germans in there own back yard with our B team the last time we played. We drew to Holland, just lost out to Brazil and qualified with a near perfect record, if we performed we would have won the WC and could have hammered Germany today if things had gone differently and you're mad if you cant see that.
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I think Germany will soundly beat England. Although not entirely fairly.
Sepp Blatter is a disgrace. FIFA are a disgrace, they have reserves of 1 600 000 000 £ can they not help the poorer countries out wih this? Instead of bullying little businessmen in SA from creating something they can sell from what is meant to be their World Cup?
You'll be interested to read this thread as it's something else Fifa do.
You'll be interested to read this thread as it's something else Fifa do.
i think germany fully deserved to win despite the injustice of lampard's goal
england were poor and only played in the last 15 mins of the first half, was germany all the way otherwise with their passing and positioning making the difference
england defence was awful today
england were poor and only played in the last 15 mins of the first half, was germany all the way otherwise with their passing and positioning making the difference
england defence was awful today
My bllod boils and my distain for Blatter grows by the minute.
he's a smarmy ****. James was England's best player yesterday, Without him it could have been 7. Why do FIFA not bother getting goal-line technology. It's already there, so USE IT! As for Rooney, he was (and is) awful. If Lampard's goal had been given it would have changed the game and England would have won
Of course we expect to win the cup, we're one of the best teams in the world, we beat the germans in there own back yard with our B team the last time we played. We drew to Holland, just lost out to Brazil and qualified with a near perfect record, if we performed we would have won the WC and could have hammered Germany today if things had gone differently and you're mad if you cant see that.
Its talk like that, that makes every single breathing Scotsman piss himself laughing when it all fails miserably around you all. Get a grip on reality. Sheesh i could say "we beat France in their backyard and at home, we wus robbed against Italy by a stupid linesman, we beat Germany at home with an isiotic manager and a team that averaged 24 in age". But am i - NO! They are all one of results.
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Its talk like that, that makes every single breathing Scotsman piss himself laughing when it all fails miserably around you all. Get a grip on reality. Sheesh i could say "we beat France in their backyard and at home, we wus robbed against Italy by a stupid linesman, we beat Germany at home with an isiotic manager and a team that averaged 24 in age". But am i - NO! They are all one of results.
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I think the difference is that Scots do not play in teams that win or get to the Finals of major club competitions. Having said that though I base this on the fantastic foreigners more than anything else.
Whether you care to accept it or not however there are a lot of supposed World Class players there who did not turn up:
Ashley Cole - arguably the best left back in the World....had a good tournament compared to others.
John Terry - WC center back but needed a pacey player next to him, and did not have the best of seasons or Tournament, I see this as down to his extra curricular activities however.
Steven Gerrard - definate WC Mid but played in the wrong position again.
Frank Lampard - one of the Worlds best at making runs into the box and scoring. The team needs to be built around that though and we simply do not have the Def Mids to do so....him and Gerrard together does not work in the center. Barry is too slow.
Glen Johnson - ok defensively he is not the best but as a RB he is very good and had a good tournament.
Milner - definate potential there.
Wayne Rooney - he is World Class but at the WC he looked like he was not interested most of the time and certainly not fit. I always believed when he first broke through at 16 that he had the body of a 30 yr old, I saw his Dad and thought he would struggle with weight. For e he was injured too long before and I think he was not match fit for the WC. I might be wrong, but thats my theory anyway.
Rio Ferdinand - World Class but bad injury hit season.
I can name others, but rtg do you seriously deny any of what I have written above? I am sure you will, but I am trying to be as unbiased as I can.
For me wrong players played and some who should have gone to the WC did not. Adam Johnson, Darren Bent and Scott Parker should have gone in place of Shaun Wright - Phillips, Emile Heskey and Barry (who was nt fit enough).
Whether you care to accept it or not however there are a lot of supposed World Class players there who did not turn up:
Ashley Cole - arguably the best left back in the World....had a good tournament compared to others.
John Terry - WC center back but needed a pacey player next to him, and did not have the best of seasons or Tournament, I see this as down to his extra curricular activities however.
Steven Gerrard - definate WC Mid but played in the wrong position again.
Frank Lampard - one of the Worlds best at making runs into the box and scoring. The team needs to be built around that though and we simply do not have the Def Mids to do so....him and Gerrard together does not work in the center. Barry is too slow.
Glen Johnson - ok defensively he is not the best but as a RB he is very good and had a good tournament.
Milner - definate potential there.
Wayne Rooney - he is World Class but at the WC he looked like he was not interested most of the time and certainly not fit. I always believed when he first broke through at 16 that he had the body of a 30 yr old, I saw his Dad and thought he would struggle with weight. For e he was injured too long before and I think he was not match fit for the WC. I might be wrong, but thats my theory anyway.
Rio Ferdinand - World Class but bad injury hit season.
I can name others, but rtg do you seriously deny any of what I have written above? I am sure you will, but I am trying to be as unbiased as I can.
For me wrong players played and some who should have gone to the WC did not. Adam Johnson, Darren Bent and Scott Parker should have gone in place of Shaun Wright - Phillips, Emile Heskey and Barry (who was nt fit enough).
I agree with this :
We came apart going for the equaliser, Germany weren't that good and could only get through because of our hopelessly slow defense.
We were chasing the game like we were 2-1 down in the 85th minute, in the 60th minute. John Terry was in their penalty box when they brok for the 3rd goal. With half an hour to go, when the team are creating chances, there is absolutely no need whatsoever for a central defender to be doing anything else but defend.
But as usual, fans favourite Mr blood-and-thunder Terry thinks he can win the World Cup single-handed. Not enough discipline, which is funnily enough what Fabio Cappello was brought in to address. Either Fabio goes or Terry does I reckon, we might have half a chance in the next tournament if Terry does.
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We came apart going for the equaliser, Germany weren't that good and could only get through because of our hopelessly slow defense.
We were chasing the game like we were 2-1 down in the 85th minute, in the 60th minute. John Terry was in their penalty box when they brok for the 3rd goal. With half an hour to go, when the team are creating chances, there is absolutely no need whatsoever for a central defender to be doing anything else but defend.
But as usual, fans favourite Mr blood-and-thunder Terry thinks he can win the World Cup single-handed. Not enough discipline, which is funnily enough what Fabio Cappello was brought in to address. Either Fabio goes or Terry does I reckon, we might have half a chance in the next tournament if Terry does.
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yeah but Scotland havent been ranked in the top ten teams of the world competing and winning against the best regularly for decades. You've lose to the likes of norway, wales, japan, macedonia, georgia, lithuania and ukraine since the last world cup.
We've only lost to Brazil, Spain, Ukraine, France, Germany, Croatia and Russia in 5 years and we was only really truly outclassed by Brazil and Spain.
Next you'll be saying the Argentinians shouldn't be expecting their team to do well...
We've only lost to Brazil, Spain, Ukraine, France, Germany, Croatia and Russia in 5 years and we was only really truly outclassed by Brazil and Spain.
Next you'll be saying the Argentinians shouldn't be expecting their team to do well...
eh no not at all. Argentina have won something in the last 20 years as have the likes of brazil, spain, germany, france and italy. They have a right to expect to win things however a team who has one one tournament in over 40 years should expect to win nothing. Lets face it take away the 66 triumph in your own back yard and you have won less trophies than Scotland has.