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Subject: Great Britain National Team
The United Kingdom should compete as one country. You are correct for thinking so.
Plus we should also take the best players from the former colonies as our own. We made them. We want them.
Plus we should also take the best players from the former colonies as our own. We made them. We want them.
Well then us Aussies would be part of the Brittish national team! What would you do with Harry Kewell and Mark Schwarzer!?
Shay Given and the Kean Brothers would not be able to play for Great Britain because Ireland isn't part of the UK.
You know, you guys do compete as Great Britain at the Olympic Games. Why can't they do that with soccer?
I'm sorry guys.... I meant to say football. You's guys are English, I have to get that through the thick noggin' of mine.
Shay Given and the Kean Brothers would not be able to play for Great Britain because Ireland isn't part of the UK.
You know, you guys do compete as Great Britain at the Olympic Games. Why can't they do that with soccer?
I'm sorry guys.... I meant to say football. You's guys are English, I have to get that through the thick noggin' of mine.
I've often wondered (as a peripheral brit) why it isn't a british team for meaningful sports, too. I'm not arsed enough to start a thread on it though :)
Well I'm not even Brittish, and it concerns me. There are two types of people in the World: Those who Brittish, and those who want to be Brittish. Unfortunately I want to be Brittish. I wish I was. I'm the goalkeeper for England on my mate's FIFA 2007 game. So what's going on in England always concerns me.
However, I spoke to my boss who's from Middlesborough, and he completely disagrees with the Idea of a Great Britain National team. He said something like this:
" I'm English, Aaron. I'm English and Great Britain secondly. But I'm not Scottish, nor am I Welsh, or am from North Ireland. If England created the first football federation in 1907, they have always been playing as England. Why should change now?"
I think that's bull. But the only reason why I'm having this debate, is because I'm wondering why Gibralter aren't FIFA recognised, and Guadelope as well. They can't qualify for the World Cup. Where as Britain - they have 4 chances to qualify for the World Cup. Australia only get one. Hawaii and Alaska can't qualify on their own. So it's unfair. You guys are given 4 chances, we have 1. And yet Britain still don't take advantage of their chances in the World Cup.....
However, I spoke to my boss who's from Middlesborough, and he completely disagrees with the Idea of a Great Britain National team. He said something like this:
" I'm English, Aaron. I'm English and Great Britain secondly. But I'm not Scottish, nor am I Welsh, or am from North Ireland. If England created the first football federation in 1907, they have always been playing as England. Why should change now?"
I think that's bull. But the only reason why I'm having this debate, is because I'm wondering why Gibralter aren't FIFA recognised, and Guadelope as well. They can't qualify for the World Cup. Where as Britain - they have 4 chances to qualify for the World Cup. Australia only get one. Hawaii and Alaska can't qualify on their own. So it's unfair. You guys are given 4 chances, we have 1. And yet Britain still don't take advantage of their chances in the World Cup.....
"UK has 4 chances to qualify" - or you can argue that we have 4 teams each with a weaker chance of qualifying than if 1 team - it's not like a lottery.
Wales, N.Ireland qualify about as often as Australia fail to beat Tonga. Scotland manage it on and off, but not that much.
Scotland, Wales, N.Ireland have their own parliament, football associations, football leagues etc.
Wales, N.Ireland qualify about as often as Australia fail to beat Tonga. Scotland manage it on and off, but not that much.
Scotland, Wales, N.Ireland have their own parliament, football associations, football leagues etc.
Maybe I should post this forum up in Scotkand, Wales, and Northern Ireland.
you do that, and you may get some intriguing remarks shall I say.
Guadalupe is an overseas region belonging to France. It's one of the 26 regions that make up France.
Gibraltar is a British overseas territory.
Wales and Scotland* are independent countries. Therefore they get their own football teams. If Gibraltar and Guadalupe were given independence then I guess they could have their teams play internationally properly?
* purposefully left our N.Ireland cos otherwise the whole argument falls apart...
Gibraltar is a British overseas territory.
Wales and Scotland* are independent countries. Therefore they get their own football teams. If Gibraltar and Guadalupe were given independence then I guess they could have their teams play internationally properly?
* purposefully left our N.Ireland cos otherwise the whole argument falls apart...
To be fair N. Ireland has its own team because no-one ever wins an argument with an Irishman. You can just picture the meeting at FIFA : "go on, YOU tell them they can't have a team."
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My boss mentioned something like that. They are sperate countries, under the one kingdom. Did they do that with USSR?
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No they didn't, but then under the USSR the Ukraine or Kazakhstan didn't have their own football associations. Their teams played under the auspices of the Russian federation. Is this becoming too difficult to understand?
Anyway, the four Home Nations (Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales and England) were granted a special dispensation by FIFA (the football world's governing body) way back in the early days, which granted them a place each on the FIFA International Committee, (or whatever) giving them a vote each on the most important issues under discussion.
This special dispensation was awarded because FIFA at the time recognised the four Home Nations as being the fathers of modern football, having invented the game and transported it to the whole World. And elsewhere.
Now, if the four Home Nations were to accede to a combined UK Olympics football team, the clamour from the 'disadvantaged' (the Asian nations, the Oceanic nations, the Caribbean perhaps too) would be massive. It would likely lead to a combined UK national team. Eventually.
In recent discussions, England were the only National Association that even entertained the idea of a combined Olympic team. Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales rightly dismissed such possibilities promptly. Each of them pulled out and said that if England wanted to represent the UK they can go ahead and do so. They would have no part of it.
As long as there is a Scotland, Northern Ireland and a Wales, a combined UK National team will not happen.
Anyway, the four Home Nations (Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales and England) were granted a special dispensation by FIFA (the football world's governing body) way back in the early days, which granted them a place each on the FIFA International Committee, (or whatever) giving them a vote each on the most important issues under discussion.
This special dispensation was awarded because FIFA at the time recognised the four Home Nations as being the fathers of modern football, having invented the game and transported it to the whole World. And elsewhere.
Now, if the four Home Nations were to accede to a combined UK Olympics football team, the clamour from the 'disadvantaged' (the Asian nations, the Oceanic nations, the Caribbean perhaps too) would be massive. It would likely lead to a combined UK national team. Eventually.
In recent discussions, England were the only National Association that even entertained the idea of a combined Olympic team. Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales rightly dismissed such possibilities promptly. Each of them pulled out and said that if England wanted to represent the UK they can go ahead and do so. They would have no part of it.
As long as there is a Scotland, Northern Ireland and a Wales, a combined UK National team will not happen.
If Guadelope can't qualify for the World Cup as one country because they are under the jurisdiction of France, Then why are England, Scotland, Wales and North Ireland allowed to qualify as seperate countries when they are just one?
I am assuming you are winding us up?
We are not one country apart from for administrational purposes. I am fairly sure that most people from each country will agree that we have our own differences and cultural nuances that set us apart.
Oh, and we invented the game so we can basically do as we please apart from where Sepp Blater is concerned.
I am assuming you are winding us up?
We are not one country apart from for administrational purposes. I am fairly sure that most people from each country will agree that we have our own differences and cultural nuances that set us apart.
Oh, and we invented the game so we can basically do as we please apart from where Sepp Blater is concerned.