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Subject: Where is the logic in this?
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I have an interesting question. I've been playing this game for a few seasons and it's kind of ok. I don't have a Plus subscription, so I'm kind of limited there.
Anyway, from what I've noticed from reading posts on this forum I get an impression that goal of this game is not to win leagues and trophies, but to develop youth players. In some post someone even said that once their players reach peak at 24 or 25 and won't improve anymore, they sell them. But where is the logic in this? In RL in soccer idea is to have the players that are in their peak, because they are the one's that will give you the best chance of winning trophies.
For ex. how many of Real Madrid's or Chelsea's players are actually from their youth school (especially Chelsea)? I know Raul, Guti, Casillas are, as well as Terry... Still, they buy players that are in their peak or are about to reach the peak. Partly because of pressure for results, they rarely have a couple of 18 years old in their lineup, that will develop through playing for them. They do buy these players, but then send them on loans. Of course, some teams like Man Utd do have a lot of players from their youth team.
Still it seems like the goal here is to develop players and then sell them. I know this is all for fun and different people enjoy different aspects of the game.
Anyway, from what I've noticed from reading posts on this forum I get an impression that goal of this game is not to win leagues and trophies, but to develop youth players. In some post someone even said that once their players reach peak at 24 or 25 and won't improve anymore, they sell them. But where is the logic in this? In RL in soccer idea is to have the players that are in their peak, because they are the one's that will give you the best chance of winning trophies.
For ex. how many of Real Madrid's or Chelsea's players are actually from their youth school (especially Chelsea)? I know Raul, Guti, Casillas are, as well as Terry... Still, they buy players that are in their peak or are about to reach the peak. Partly because of pressure for results, they rarely have a couple of 18 years old in their lineup, that will develop through playing for them. They do buy these players, but then send them on loans. Of course, some teams like Man Utd do have a lot of players from their youth team.
Still it seems like the goal here is to develop players and then sell them. I know this is all for fun and different people enjoy different aspects of the game.
Well, when you train players and sell them, you use that money to improve the non-training areas of your team. You should have (theoretically) players in the training position that would be ready to step in once you sell an older trainee. You could, possibly, train strikers, then train midfielders, and then train defenders, but the cycle would be such that your strikers would be in their 30's by the time you moved back to training strikers.
disco, this ain't real sokker homes....
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I do believe you're comparing RL clubs too shallowly.
Clubs in real life don't have to sell players as their primary means of income. They can also train all positions at the same time, so their youth can cover all positions when they're ready to play.
Well of course I am in a way, it's impossible to make a serious analysis in 3 sentences.
Actually for a lot of clubs, especially the clubs in weaker leagues like in Eastern Europe (for ex. in my home country Partizan and Red Star) selling players is the main mean of income.
And I don't see that in sokker selling players is the main mean of income. You also get money from sponsors and from ticket sales.
My point was that if you have a player that reaches his peak why do you want to unload him? Don't you want to use him to produce best results for your team? You were putting him in lineup when he was 21 so that his skills increase and then once they increase to near his max potential at the age of 24-25 you don't play him anymore, but rather sell him. Why not play him now when he is better than when he was 20?
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And I don't see that in sokker selling players is the main mean of income. You also get money from sponsors and from ticket sales.
My point was that if you have a player that reaches his peak why do you want to unload him? Don't you want to use him to produce best results for your team? You were putting him in lineup when he was 21 so that his skills increase and then once they increase to near his max potential at the age of 24-25 you don't play him anymore, but rather sell him. Why not play him now when he is better than when he was 20?
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Ignore Fromo. He was most likely drunk when he typed that.
Also, to address your initial opinion - IMO this game models more of a baseball-style economy than sokker. You need to develop your minor leagues, and use them to fill in the gaps (either by selling or training) left by economic limitations. RL sokker has endorsement from silly logos on jerseys, tv deals, etc, to enable the clubs to buy players. That supplemental income isn't involved here.
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Also, to address your initial opinion - IMO this game models more of a baseball-style economy than sokker. You need to develop your minor leagues, and use them to fill in the gaps (either by selling or training) left by economic limitations. RL sokker has endorsement from silly logos on jerseys, tv deals, etc, to enable the clubs to buy players. That supplemental income isn't involved here.
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