Subject: Server Breakdown

In the meantime, it was 2 minutes until we noticed the wrong deadlines, and some users had bought players at an extremely unfair price. As that is not fair behavior and is against Sokker rules, some of the players bought in that period - if the price was significantly under market price, may be sent back to their previous team. Funds spent on the unfair transfer won't be returned to users that took advantage of this server problem. Admins are currently debating on how to deal with these cases.


Umm..what?

" Funds spent on the unfair transfer won't be returned to users that took advantage of this server problem."

So people who were just actively bidding and happened to win the bid because of server issues are now going to lose their money? I mean everyone knows the price of a player usually doesn't rise until the end time anyways so shouldn't everything just be refunded?

Speaking of unfair sales though,

Shoot I just sold a 1.6 mill value player not too long ago and he only ended up selling for 300K, can I have him back? :)


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When I came back a couple weeks ago, I had no illusions that this game was run any better then when I left (which was not well at all).

Llama, you've been around long enough to know better.

I really wish I understood what are were saying.... but sounds bad.

I got the general gist of what he was saying. I'm just hoping English is his second language, for his sake.

This refers to extreme bargains induced by a server bug. A pair of 1 666 668 $+ defenders went for 25k each or so - this was unfair as the prices were not market decided but an unlucky bug ^^

I'm an A student in English - I thought it was clear but I have had the flu for a while so who knows ^^

But what happened that they went so cheap? Was their deadline moved up a day or something?

No, the server crashed at 3pm-7.30pm sk time. When the server came back on - you could still bid on players for two minutes which meant people got players for insane prices.

And how exactly bidding on them was unfair??? Someone went online, saw the prices, bid on the players, end of story. I don't see why they should lose their money.

Because the server had been down, its a bug - and people take advantage of it. It is in the rules.

One guy who bought two was a mod. Note the was.

For the record: I wasn't buying or selling at that time, so I have no vested interest, but I think this is a fundamentally unfair interpretation of the rules of the game. Taking advantage of a bug would mean doing something that would not be otherwise possible. These people did everything by the rules: they went online, they saw the player, they bid and won the bidding. Where is the "taking advantage part"? In principle some of them could have even been unaware of the server breakdown. If a technical glitch skewed the bidding by limiting peoples ability to log on (i.e. fewer potential bidders) or changed the timing of auctions, just cancel the affected sales, return the players AND return the money.

You guys are wrong on this.

thank you j23 for seeing my point

exploiting a bug would be something like finding a way to buy sell a player and then get him back plus the money you made on him.

Or finding a glitch in the ME where you automatically win or something like that

Simply logging onto the game and bidding on players is not exploiting a bug. Especially because sokker KNEW that there would be transfer list issues since the server breakdown and therefore they could just void all sales and refund both players.

I especially feel bad for someone who never knew of the server breakdown and just happened to log in and bid for players then get screwed

I agree.

However, there are rules that clearly state that clear and obvious aberrations in player value/sales can and will be subject to modification by staff. This isn't a new policy. Usually, you see this with overbidding of players by wealthy friends looking to help someone they know out.

Although I don't see why a MOD would be stripped of his title for doing this. It's not inherently illegal. He didn't break the server to schedule this advantage.

Staff needs to simply offer said players at a market reasonable price (via PM to the buyer), and if the buyer refuses, then he gets relisted on market, with previous purchase price refunded.

Punishing anyone (punitive damage wise) for buying a player after the server starts back up is absolutely wrong. If the server didn't crash to begin with, the scenario wouldn't exist, now would it?


That'd make too much sense though. Much easier to point fingers.
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However, there are rules that clearly state that clear and obvious aberrations in player value/sales can and will be subject to modification by staff.

I know, but if the modification means "we'll return the player you just bought to the previous owner but you don't get your money back", that's a ripoff by the admins. You propose a viable solution: the admins offer the new owner the exclusive purchase of the player at market prices or the transaction is voided and the player and the money return to original owners. There is no need to punish anyone. These people did nothing wrong!

Ok. Here's the thing though.

The money in question that was not given back wasn't millions. It was 25k at max really. Just a little example really.

The problem is, the time window for some bids is so small, some of the people would have to have been pressing refresh on logon.php, then went straight to office to overbid. (i.e - the mod did this.) This really isn't fair on the sellers.

What would have been really unfair is if nothing happened, and they sold said players for over 1000x profit.

that had nothing to do with j23s point

again, id stick to your side of the pond buddy