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Subject: [NT] Andreyouthman

2026-03-16 09:27:39
Regarding Brazil vs. Portugal... that was the USA against a team weaker than Brazil:


Global comparison between all teams:

(Suomi and USA almost tied)

Additionally, I want to make it clear that I have nothing against you and I don't think you're doing a bad job. This whole discussion is just to prove a point: "the coach of a national team is very important in training the players."

That's why I'm focusing so much on the growth of the team's results in the argument, because that growth is a consequence of an improved distribution of skills. You were able to maintain the level I left in the USA, and that's good. But you haven't been doing the work I did regarding training, that is, talking to coaches to correct skill problems, and that's why the USA is stagnating in terms of the quality I left here.
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2026-03-17 02:15:09
the two teams that qualified had better players than us

How do You think this issue should be solved?
2026-03-17 21:49:30
How do You think this issue should be solved?

First, my goal is to climb the rankings to be in Pot 2; it's one of the few things I share with Releme.

After that, you can guide coaches to help players improve certain skills, but in the national team, the good players are already trained by good coaches, and my influence is minimal.

I think the best thing is to encourage American coaches to open their youth academies; it's the best way to have more players and, therefore, greater variety to choose from, and thus build a better team.
2026-03-18 17:53:30
First, my goal is to climb the rankings to be in Pot 2

that doesn't solve a problem of other teams having better players, it only solves a problem of not running into those teams in qualification. We will need to face teams with better players in WC anyways.


After that, you can guide coaches to help players improve certain skills, but in the national team, the good players are already trained by good coaches...

No. good players aren't always coached by good coaches. Specifics of more populated leagues with multiple tiers at avg rating at least 60+ highly incentivize buying a talented 24-28 player and stop giving him Advanced training. and just waiting for potential pops from general training.

I think Butch Dixon is the best example here. He has been at pretty much the same level forever. He first looks like a great player, yet later it is difficult to figure out what position should he play (at NT level)

Butch Dixon at 30yo:

16 pace. 14 def
16 technique 15 playmaking
15 passing

in league/cup competition he can play at every position in midfield.


NT however:

not a winger- too slow for that, technique and passing too low.

not a playmaker - with 2x 15 pass/play

not a def mid with only brilliant def will most likely compete against 16-17 tech players most of the time.


typical jack of all traits, master of none. With prolonged training, maybe a little different distribution he could easily become a top notch mid.


...and my influence is minimal.

I disagree, NT coach should lead and influence by setting up an example, guidelines and reference points.


I think the best thing is to encourage American coaches to open their youth academies; it's the best way to have more players and, therefore, greater variety to choose from, and thus build a better team.

that helps a little but doesn't change much. Once those players are out of YS they often are sold for pennies as a lot of Our managers sadly don't always recognize who might become a real deal. there is no guidance nor reference point. Often managers just need money right away, or don't have a slot. Therefore they end up being sold for cheap, sometimes to teams with less optimal coaching staff, sometimes to managers who don't understand the game very well. We cannot afford to waste talents given current user base.


We need users who will buy Our Youth and commit to at least finding out talent.

great example:
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Working together will ensure higher YS profits.


To sum up:

Sure, by relying on others we can easily cruise Our way to pot 2, maybe even pot 1 at some point but in order to be relevant in World Cup we need a system, and prolonged training at later age in a way that will also benefit managers who choose to train those players.
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2026-03-18 18:00:07
Yeah that's basically how most small/medium countries improved their NT.

Bulgaria does it for a very long time at high level with a bit more than half of USA users, England started doing that seasons ago and they improved massively.

It's not even that complicated but demands time of 1-2 persons (NT & u21 coaches preferably) to find / notify about available potential u21/NT players and country users willing to train them for u21/NT. Which often means training past the "profitable" 25-26yo period to maximise their potential.

Most important thing is to monitor the new youth players and make sure the "normal" ones don't get mistrained by owners from other countries because it happens very often.

Another step is improving the knowledge about training / building players and activity among users in country, increasing the number of youth schools (no YS = no good NT) etc.
2026-03-18 22:00:55
"Working together will ensure higher YS profits."

No, only being blessed enough to be a sokker trust find baby ensures higher youth profits. 10 million of sales already, wow.
2026-03-19 18:39:29
No. good players aren't always coached by good coaches. Specifics of more populated leagues with multiple tiers at avg rating at least 60+ highly incentivize buying a talented 24-28 player and stop giving him Advanced training. and just waiting for potential pops from general training.

This is not true. There may be some coaches who do this, but it is not the norm.
I have spoken with coaches who incorporate our national team players and continue training them at an advanced level.

I think Butch Dixon is the best example here. He has been at pretty much the same level forever. He first looks like a great player, yet later it is difficult to figure out what position should he play (at NT level)

not a def mid with only brilliant def will most likely compete against 16-17 tech players most of the time.

Butch Dixon at 28yo:

15 pace. 13 def
16 technique 16 playmaking
16 passing

In this case, I was the NT Coach when Dixon was 28 years old; since then, he has grow up in pace and defense, while his level has dropped in playmaking and passing. And I think he isn't poorly trained.

But, I do believe he can play as a Defensive MID, and he does it very well.

Unfortunately, we dont have enough midfielders to cover that position, and this is not due to poor training, but simply because we lack sufficient players.
Precisely for this reason, I maintain that we need our users to open youth academies, so that we may have more players to train and select from.


@ borkos007

Yeah that's basically how most small/medium countries improved their NT.

Bulgaria does it for a very long time at high level with a bit more than half of USA users, England started doing that seasons ago and they improved massively.


I'm sorry, Borkos, but Bulgaria currently has 48 active youth academies, while England has 41.

In the USA, we only have 23 active youth academies.

Therefore, if we want to measure ourselves against those countries, the first and most important step is to establish more youth academies and provide guidance to users.

I agree that this effort must be a collaborative one between the coaches of the U-21 and those of the senior NT
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2026-03-19 19:19:37
Yeah I understand that user number doesn't equal NT potential, that's why I mentioned that it's important to make sure there are more youth schools, even though often they don't even "pay for themselves" until one lucky youth comes in.

"Another step is improving the knowledge about training / building players and activity among users in country, increasing the number of youth schools (no YS = no good NT) etc."

Still, Moldova has 17 users and managed to create a really good NT, around 80 rating. I think they are one the biggest "overperformers" in NTs at the moment. Qualified to 5 out of 6 last World Cups, reached quarterfinals twice. Really impressive stuff.
2026-03-20 08:47:17
I'm not going to get involved in the elections Your post does exactly that, I suggest you don't post at all and then you truly are not getting involved in the election. Oh and I agree with others, your post is all about you, yourself and I. I suggest you post elsewhere rather than insulting people.
2026-03-20 08:52:04
Everything Borkos said above is 100% accurate. England had a manager who really scoured the whole set of English youths, he notified the community when they were available and due to this we got so many moire trained to good levels. We also started to train these players for longer than past 25 yrs old. The US can definitely do this too imo. You do also need a chunk of luck with some nice youths coming out and less injuries to key ones.

Good luck for the election Andreyouthman.
2026-03-20 18:02:53
I think You missed my point,

here:

You bought Woody Rhode and Greg Johnson when running for Your first term.

then You decided to sell them without much heads up, only posting when on TL
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Back then I would love to buy Woody Rhode and continue his training.

This is how many national players as You currently have:
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USA NT players? NULL


number of USA players AndreYouthman purchased since December 16th 2024: 1 (one)

You have displayed zero effort to find the next talent among Youth we currently have, from already existing YS.

Your forum engagement: minimal

plan: none

hopes: moving to pot 2, avoid teams with better players, others will open YS.


Given reasons listed above I think Our community deserves another option here.
2026-03-20 21:50:46
You're going to have some interesting elections :) I'm curious about the results myself :) I'm glad there are two Americans running :) Andreyouthman – his results in recent seasons with the national team are a plus, Paradiseky – it's clear he has a long-term plan, and he won the American Championship last season, so his form is definitely on point.

You have a tough choice to make.

Good luck to both of you and keep moving forward :)
2026-03-21 15:35:39
I think you’re confusing two different things.

In my view, the national team manager should focus on tactical preparation to win matches, and on communicating with the users who own national team players in order to guide their training, if necessary.

The goal isn't for me to have to buy 28 year old national team players for my own club just to keep training them, especially since, at that age, the only thing you really achieve is delaying the decline of their skills slightly (and sometimes, not even that).

Whenever I’ve had the opportunity, I’ve trained American players. Unfortunately, however, my youth academy isn't producing any major talents; and the few promising players it *does* produce, I train for the U-21 (I have several examples, such as Taylor Taylor) and then sell them off, confident that they will continue to receive quality training because I maintain communication with the buyers.

But that is one thing, and knowing how to manage a national team using the specific players currently at your disposal is something else entirely.

As far as I’m concerned, the national team operates independently of my club.
Why does it feel as though I have to sacrifice the management of my own club just to contribute a player to the national team, only to end up missing out on opportunities to generate revenue that I could otherwise reinvest more effectively down the line?

Therefore, the primary objective should be to encourage users to open their own youth academies. In the long run, this will result in a larger pool of American players within the game, and, consequently, a much higher probability of having better-quality players available for the national team.

Before I became the national team manager, the USA had qualified for the World Cup only once in the previous 26 seasons (spanning 13 qualifying cycles). In my four seasons at the helm (covering 3 qualifying cycles), I’ve managed to secure World Cup qualification twice; the one time we missed out, most recently, we still won 7 out of 10 matches, yet it wasn't quite enough. And during the World Cup itself, we managed to earn a draw against Turkey—a team that, at the time, was ranked third in the world.

And all of this was accomplished with a severely limited pool of available players, given that the players currently aged 27 to 32 hail from an era when the United States had barely 15 active youth academies across the entire game.

I believe my results as NT Coach speak for themselves, and I am convinced that, if I remain at the helm, we will be promoted to Pot 2 this season, something the United States has not achieved in at least 45 seasons.

When I started, the United States had just 1,931 ranking points. Today, they stand at 2,114 (plus the points from today's victory), and all of this has been achieved by playing qualifying matches and very few friendlies.

Finally, I also believe that you, Paradiseky, would make a good national team manager.

Although your previous stint as manager wasn't spectacular, you managed to climb 64 ​​points in the rankings over the course of 13 matches (4.92 per match).

My numbers stand at 327 points in 50 matches (6.54 per match), excluding the points from today's victory.

Good Luck Paradiseky.
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2026-03-21 21:57:54
I agree with Andre.
Voted for Paradiseky this time - his results have been impressive and recently Andre has not been actively communicating in my impression. In either way I believe both are strong candidates - wish one led NT and one led U21 NT
2026-03-22 01:53:01
No. I'm not confusing anything. We merely have different philosophies.

I started implementing mine around end of season 72. Works well for me, perhaps I can find few users that will implement it.

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Given limited pool of players especially in midfield, taking care of what we already have is best idea that comes to my mind. I don't see it as a sacrifice, rather a strategy that can benefit club needs at the same time. Midfielders are expensive and often sold when on edge of a skill. Giving extra season or two of Advanced training can be beneficial in long run when trying to retain both club and NT quality.

First we need to educate Our users on coaching staff and training. Then we can send them Youth that already comes out of YS with undiscovered talent or unfortunate skill distribution. Once they learn how to make profit they can open their YS academies. Otherwise opening YS might be a nail in the coffin for many. I opened mine late, under Sebek's persuasion, I was planning to wait another season.

As far as Your results go, once again, I congratulate you. You did a fantastic job and I won't be belittling Your achievements. You are an excellent coach, great sport and very competitive individual.

Again my philosophy is different, and I believe that a lot of users and NT can benefit from it, hence I'm giving everyone an option to vote for me.

You have a right to feel that my term " wasn't spectacular".

I had 1 season of experience in ML
0 seasons of experience in CL
0 seasons of experience on international level
Quality of NT wasn't nearly as good as now.

I played against very strong teams; it took me a while to figure out game on international level:


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2026-03-22 13:20:53
I started implementing mine around end of season 72. Works well for me, perhaps I can find few users that will implement it.


Once again, our club has absolutely nothing to do with the national team.

Because, if we are going to draw that comparison, my club has won at least one title in each of the last 12 seasons, with the sole exception of last season, when I lost the US Cup final. Furthermore, over the last 14 seasons, I have consistently remained among the top 3 in the MLS, achieving success against both previous generations (Ciomocio, Atlantic, Dinamo) and the most recent ones (Habib, Sebek, Islander, Tad, Blue, You, etc.).
And I believe I will be able to maintain a top3 spot for at least three more seasons, therefore, I am confident that my model works very well (with or without american players)


First we need to educate Our users on coaching staff and training. Then we can send them Youth that already comes out of YS with undiscovered talent or unfortunate skill distribution. Once they learn how to make profit they can open their YS academies. Otherwise opening YS might be a nail in the coffin for many. I opened mine late, under Sebek's persuasion, I was planning to wait another season.

I believe the youth academy should be opened as soon as possible. It is a sacrifice that pays off in a short time. And believe me: in all these years (20 seasons), I have only managed to generate 15 million through the sale of my youth players, and the truly significant sales only materialized after I had dedicated a considerable amount of time to player development.
In fact, my own net balance is negative by 5 million (20 million in costs versus 15 million in revenue); however, I see many cases here, like yours, that are very, very positive. And for the sake of the national team, it is crucial that more youth academies are opened.

As far as Your results go, once again, I congratulate you. You did a fantastic job and I won't be belittling Your achievements. You are an excellent coach, great sport and very competitive individual.


Ty, I really appreciate it, because you’ve always wished me the best.

Finally, my stats with the national team are: In the rankings,

We climbed from 44th to our current position of 36th.

We gained 389 ranking points over 51 matches, an average of 7.63.

I hope win this election.