Subject: Juniors

I am just curious, with prospects coming out in the 30-35 week range, what is the lowest level one has started with and actually turned out to be talented and when brought into squad as useful? Hopeless? Unsatisfactory?
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a tragic 30 could become as good as excellent if he is a 3 week talent.

youth actually come to your school?

nice!

Where would you draw the line then? A 30 week junior tragic with 4 week pops? 5 week?

I wouldn't waste any cash on a 30 week tragic. IMO the odds of making your money back on the player are very slim.

The only thing I would say is if he pops in that first week maybe keep him for another 3 and see if he pops again. That week is a free look, so no harm in it.

I cut any juniors that wont be excellent with 5 week pops. (at the advice of Lakay)

I usually go with VG or better. then again as a result of that I only have 5 people left in my school :(

Excellent? That's too high of a standard.

What about solid and very good? These pulls could very well be valuable to your squad. They certainly have for me in the past, and not to mention if they come out at age 16.

My standard is good. Players who don't look like much coming out of the squad (to an established team) can be passed along to start-up clubs who turn them into something nice. Then, you profit from the mother club money over time.

I at least give them a shot to make it in the Sokker world. Clarence Swinehart and Glenn Beasley of the NT are terrific examples.

I think this is an interesting debate that has been raised. Thanks guys for taking it one step further.

well beasley and swinehart are good and at NT status because theyve been around since the beginning of the USA sokker game.. with the standards of pulls now im pretty sure a good pull will never make the team, probably not even an excellent (remember im just talking about making the NT, players can still be good players and not make our team)

profitwise though solids-excellent with nice skill distribution/age can be nice trainees or make you some money, especially if you can provide proof of good talent

Nevertheless, Swinehart is still divine and Beasley has one of the highest $ values on the team. My point wasn't that those juniors would make the NT, just that they could become outstanding players and that you could profit from them in the long run.

That's why it's good to give them a chance to survive in the Sokker world, instead of cutting them in your junior school.

OK point taken, i don't really have too much to go one since ive only been playing 3 seasons and have only had a junior school plan for 1 month. I'm just repeating what ive been told by managers more experianced than myself.

also as a c-league team can I afford to keep solids and very goods?
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I think when considering good-solid youths you have to consider how much time in your youth school they need.

a good-solid who is only needs just a few weeks is alot different then a youth who needs 30 weeks.

and why should I trust someone that knocked me out of the cup??? j/k I agree thats a very good point.