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Subject: Stats ??
*falls out of chair*
You two HAVE to give us some warning before you start agreeing on stuff. I just about had the big one!
You two HAVE to give us some warning before you start agreeing on stuff. I just about had the big one!
That's why, in my trainees, I emphasize "secondaries" over striking. Take this guy, for example:
good stamina, hopeless keeper
outstanding pace, average defender
outstanding technique, weak playmaker
average passing, good striker
His goals scored is still pretty respectable, even though he started with only excellent tech, excellent pace, and unsatisfactory striking.
good stamina, hopeless keeper
outstanding pace, average defender
outstanding technique, weak playmaker
average passing, good striker
His goals scored is still pretty respectable, even though he started with only excellent tech, excellent pace, and unsatisfactory striking.
But you do state the restriction that in a one-on-one situation the goalie skill is compared with the striker skill. Does that mean that your striker below will very rarely succeed one-on-one against Bogan&Co?
By the way ... do you have an idea how penalty kicks are "calculated"? Is that just another one-on-one?
By the way ... do you have an idea how penalty kicks are "calculated"? Is that just another one-on-one?
It appears that in a one-on-one situation where the striker doesn't shoot prior to contacting the keeper (i.e., the keeper lays down on the ball, essentially), the striker skill is compared to the keeper skill. So, yeah, the striker I listed rarely scores in those situations.
As for pk's, my instinct says that it's treated as any other shot. But the guy who takes my pk's has incredible striker, so he scores most of the time.
As for pk's, my instinct says that it's treated as any other shot. But the guy who takes my pk's has incredible striker, so he scores most of the time.
Yeah, because pewsum is CLEARLY not scoring enough goals in B2 this season :P
Whaqt about breakaway situations where the striker does shoot on the keeper un-inhibited?
In that situation, I believe that it's treated as a normal shot, i.e., the striker's skill determines if the shot is on target and the keeper's skill determines if he can get to the ball.
I should clarify that, taking into consideration that Ravens has played a walkover team twice that the rest of the league had to play as a regular match, I'm the league leader in goals and only one of my strikers has a big striker skill.
In that situation, I believe that it's treated as a normal shot, i.e., the striker's skill determines if the shot is on target and the keeper's skill determines if he can get to the ball.
so let me see if I'm following you on this.
Let's take two players.
1) Striker with outstanding striking.
2) Goalkeeper with very good keeper skill.
One on one shot. Distance regardless - because obviously there are more then one or two variables involved here...but I want for example's sake to keep it to just one.
Let's say we use a random probability/number generator from 1-100.
Are you saying that, for example...
On the shot, the striker player gets a 45 rolled. That means, for all intents and purposes, he gets the shot off, on target, but it's nothing special.
The keeper, meanwhile, gets a 90 on the roll, meaning he can stop the shot even though he's far inferior skill wise compared to the striker's striking ability.
Or conversely, you can turn the values around and the opposite is true. The weaker striker can beat the superior keeper.
Is this what you are implying?
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so let me see if I'm following you on this.
Let's take two players.
1) Striker with outstanding striking.
2) Goalkeeper with very good keeper skill.
One on one shot. Distance regardless - because obviously there are more then one or two variables involved here...but I want for example's sake to keep it to just one.
Let's say we use a random probability/number generator from 1-100.
Are you saying that, for example...
On the shot, the striker player gets a 45 rolled. That means, for all intents and purposes, he gets the shot off, on target, but it's nothing special.
The keeper, meanwhile, gets a 90 on the roll, meaning he can stop the shot even though he's far inferior skill wise compared to the striker's striking ability.
Or conversely, you can turn the values around and the opposite is true. The weaker striker can beat the superior keeper.
Is this what you are implying?
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so woulds the chances of getting a better number go up with each skill level?
like the average number he gets
like the average number he gets
Although benmor's better to answer this, I would assume that the better the striking skill, the higher probability you'll get a shot on goal, and of course the better chance it'll be of high caliber. This is what makes an outstanding striker better then a solid one.
The hypothetical roll of 40 for the outstanding striker is on goal, but not of 'outstanding quality'.
The solid striker rolling a 40 on the same shot will result in a complete miss.
Goalkeeping regardless, because as a goalie you don't have to stop what doesn't make it on net.
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The hypothetical roll of 40 for the outstanding striker is on goal, but not of 'outstanding quality'.
The solid striker rolling a 40 on the same shot will result in a complete miss.
Goalkeeping regardless, because as a goalie you don't have to stop what doesn't make it on net.
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Wow, the goalies wage is more than what he gets from sponsors i bet. Almost 90% mark :/ Crazy, and dumb.
how could it be anything other than how you're describing it now?
Obviously, the better the shooter the better a good shot, and the better the keeper, the better a good save. And of course it's relative to both the keeper and shooter...
Obviously, the better the shooter the better a good shot, and the better the keeper, the better a good save. And of course it's relative to both the keeper and shooter...
Do you know more details about how penalty kicks are calculated? I'm just asking because I had a match a couple of weeks ago, where I had 3 penalty kicks ... and none (!) was converted, despite the fact that my striker is at least 2 level better than the keeper (and in comparable or better form).
Coming from real soccer, it would be plain wrong to apply the general "shooting on goal" logic to penalty kicks...
Coming from real soccer, it would be plain wrong to apply the general "shooting on goal" logic to penalty kicks...