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Of those, boxing is the only real sport.
American football = Rugby for wimps, who are strong but not tough.
Hockey = I assume you mean Ice Hockey and not Hockey as they are two completely different things?
Basketball = Netball for boys
MMA = What?
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American football = Rugby for wimps, who are strong but not tough.
Hockey = I assume you mean Ice Hockey and not Hockey as they are two completely different things?
Basketball = Netball for boys
MMA = What?
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I'd throw rugby in the previous list. It wasn't an intentionally omission.
The players in Am Football are bigger and stronger then rugby players. Tougher? Maybe not.
Sorry, yeah Ice Hockey. I thought that would be an assumption the typical person would make in Soccer USA.
Basketball - if you havent played in in a competitive, organized environment as an adult, then you've got no idea what you're talking about. It's not EXTREMELY tough, but its a physical game played with no equipment.
MMA = mixed martial arts.
The players in Am Football are bigger and stronger then rugby players. Tougher? Maybe not.
Sorry, yeah Ice Hockey. I thought that would be an assumption the typical person would make in Soccer USA.
Basketball - if you havent played in in a competitive, organized environment as an adult, then you've got no idea what you're talking about. It's not EXTREMELY tough, but its a physical game played with no equipment.
MMA = mixed martial arts.
My main issue is with American Football. A lot of the people that play it, go into it without having played it for a long amount of time (at least the ones I've heard of), or walk into it just because they are big and buff. Being bigger than your opponent seems to be the main thing to do, suggesting a lack of any sort of skill other than being able to just ram into people.
Depends on the position, obviously. You can't just be big to play. There is a lot of coordination, technique and speed required even for an offensive lineman. And of course, QB, corners, running backs, and receivers all have VERY different physical requirements.
But hey, there are certain physical attributes that provide a great advantage. Height in basketball. Speed and strength in your rugby. A head made of concrete in your rugby, for that matter :). Arm length, speed, strength in boxing. etc.
But hey, there are certain physical attributes that provide a great advantage. Height in basketball. Speed and strength in your rugby. A head made of concrete in your rugby, for that matter :). Arm length, speed, strength in boxing. etc.
Gibby,
this couldn't be further from the truth - at the NFL level.
You get a few stories here and there, but 98% of all NFL players come from college football.
Imagine a sport where you have over 300 plays,- just for offense. On each play, 11 players need to do something specific on the play. If they don't, the play fails, sometimes miserably via turnover or sack.
So much goes on during a single play its not funny. It's not a man on man sport in most cases. For example, let's say you are an offensive tackle. Your job primarily is to dominate the defensive end and keep him from your QB on passing downs. However, some plays you may see the QB intentionally bootleg out to the opposite side of the field.
This means the tackle instead of engaging the one defensive end for a full 5 seconds, his job is to simply hold him up for 2 seconds, then let him go and move forward to engage the linebacker behind him.
Meanwhile, the running back throws a block on the now free defensive end, the tackle engages the linebacker.
Meanwhile, the quarterback, who is on the other side of the field, throws a 10 yard crossing pattern pass to a wide reciever, who's cutting across the field towards our original offensive lineman.
If the lineman doesn't take out the linebacker on that side, then the linebacker stays free to either break up the pass or tackle the receiver of the pass immediately afterwards.
But the lineman takes out that linebacker, and a 10 yard pass tunrns into a 20 yard passing play.
American football is VERY cerebral for most positions. I just took you through the progression of what ONE player does on a single play on offense.
I could give more examples, if you like.
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this couldn't be further from the truth - at the NFL level.
You get a few stories here and there, but 98% of all NFL players come from college football.
Imagine a sport where you have over 300 plays,- just for offense. On each play, 11 players need to do something specific on the play. If they don't, the play fails, sometimes miserably via turnover or sack.
So much goes on during a single play its not funny. It's not a man on man sport in most cases. For example, let's say you are an offensive tackle. Your job primarily is to dominate the defensive end and keep him from your QB on passing downs. However, some plays you may see the QB intentionally bootleg out to the opposite side of the field.
This means the tackle instead of engaging the one defensive end for a full 5 seconds, his job is to simply hold him up for 2 seconds, then let him go and move forward to engage the linebacker behind him.
Meanwhile, the running back throws a block on the now free defensive end, the tackle engages the linebacker.
Meanwhile, the quarterback, who is on the other side of the field, throws a 10 yard crossing pattern pass to a wide reciever, who's cutting across the field towards our original offensive lineman.
If the lineman doesn't take out the linebacker on that side, then the linebacker stays free to either break up the pass or tackle the receiver of the pass immediately afterwards.
But the lineman takes out that linebacker, and a 10 yard pass tunrns into a 20 yard passing play.
American football is VERY cerebral for most positions. I just took you through the progression of what ONE player does on a single play on offense.
I could give more examples, if you like.
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Fairly good analytic description, islander1.
My 7 years of actively playing the sport at many levels, plus 27 years coaching it and 60 years watching it ... gives me a little bit more perspective on the sport than most others.
As for 300 plays ... how about an offensive system that encorporates over 320,000 different plays? That was the gist of the system that I taught .. and wrote a coaching manual for.
For example, the manual describes how to run the 'same' offensive play with 14 different blocking schemes! With the possibility of the same play to each side of the formation ... that doubles the number of plays possible.
Using multiple formations. .. and motion! ... just a 'simple' passing tree yields over 10,000 different passing plays ... now multiply that by the different pass-protection and backfield schemes .. well, 320,000 is actually quite conservative.
I could go on .. but you'd all be bored stiff.
My 7 years of actively playing the sport at many levels, plus 27 years coaching it and 60 years watching it ... gives me a little bit more perspective on the sport than most others.
As for 300 plays ... how about an offensive system that encorporates over 320,000 different plays? That was the gist of the system that I taught .. and wrote a coaching manual for.
For example, the manual describes how to run the 'same' offensive play with 14 different blocking schemes! With the possibility of the same play to each side of the formation ... that doubles the number of plays possible.
Using multiple formations. .. and motion! ... just a 'simple' passing tree yields over 10,000 different passing plays ... now multiply that by the different pass-protection and backfield schemes .. well, 320,000 is actually quite conservative.
I could go on .. but you'd all be bored stiff.
Havy: Thanks. It was a very basic example I realized any more detail would be unreadable.
LOL, because actual soccer sucks ;)
This sim, however, does not.
Sorry!
This sim, however, does not.
Sorry!
i just thought it was funny that havie (HA-MOD) and mr_g were the ones to take it off topic this time.
Soccer doesn't always suck. mia hamm. There's a reason there's 3 m's in her name. MMMMMMMM
Soccer doesn't always suck. mia hamm. There's a reason there's 3 m's in her name. MMMMMMMM
if this thread wasnt off topic so much, it'd still be on page 2.
Read the topic title.
Reads "soccer and other sports" so it wasn't off topic :P.
p.s. I like cheese on toast.
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Reads "soccer and other sports" so it wasn't off topic :P.
p.s. I like cheese on toast.
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Hey mr_g, this is my forum to moderate, no messing around!!!!!! :)
NO MODERATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.
I'll dump some tea in a harbor.
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I'll dump some tea in a harbor.
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