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Subject: [NT] U21 Tracking

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2008-07-07 18:13:43
Seca [del] to All
I think we should have a thread for keeping tabs on our youth players. I found the "Next Season's U21" thread I made a while back very useful - this is intended as a more "official" version of that.

Keeping all this data together makes it quick and easy to check up on a player's progress. Marks and value can be monitored. Those that "bloom" may earn themselves a call up. Those that fester will be dropped from the list.

The goal initially is to cast a fairly broad net. I've gone through this year's youth threads, and through CPL and Division II rosters, as well as my own notes. I think it's a good start, but there will be players who are missed. Eventually we may have to add "requirements" for the different categories. But at the start I think we'll use value and marks as a guideline - if you have a player close in value & marks to those in a category, please post him to this thread.

I should add it's difficult to evaluate youth players from just value and marks. Stamina and form have huge implications which can throw off judgment. The list will be refined. :)
2008-07-07 18:15:12
STRIKERS


16 yr

17 yr

18 yr
['pid=8261319]Brandon Tourigney[/pid] - Estonia
['pid=9371907]Tyler Sandoval[/pid] - Real Vancouver FC

19 yr
['pid=7598952]Flip Kozlowiecki[/pid] - Spain
['pid=8269324]Milos Leopold[/pid] - Belgium
['pid=9244160]T.J. Caraiman[/pid] - NK Duga Resa
['pid=9611882] Nolan Kampa[/pid] - Valiant FC
['pid=9705050]Andy McDonald[/pid]- Jalea of Scarberia
['pid=9058448]Nevio Raber[/pid] - FC Warriors

20 yr
['pid=7435841]Giuliano Parise[/pid] - Valiant FC
['pid=8789589]Atiba Harvey [/pid] - New West Stampedos
['pid=7554395]Hal Celali[/pid] - FC Warriors
['pid=7174791]Dustin Easingwood[/pid] - Netherlands
['pid=7586026]Vladimir Ali[/pid] - England
['pid=8515876]Alexei Dagenais[/pid] - Finland
['pid=9058531]Diogo Chatel[/pid] - Real Hawkes
['pid=7854463]Silvio Hill[/pid] - Vandali

21 yr
['pid=6886926]Garth Galindo[/pid] - FK Otpisani
['pid=9308652]Nico Saldarini[/pid] - Real Vancouver FC
['pid=8128627]Lucky Omokua[/pid] - Pills United
['pid=8073858]Yves Bell[/pid]- Josavica

O21
['pid=5934538]Paul Davidson[/pid]
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2008-07-07 18:19:12
MIDS


16 yr

17 yr

18 yr
['pid=9461741]Aaron Omar [/pid] - DB Rovers
['pid=9900641]Pierre-Marc Di Rossi[/pid] - DB Rovers
['pid=8379497]Dave MacMillan[/pid] - HL Football

19 yr
['pid=8924372]Kurtis Lightfoot[/pid] - Pills United
['pid=8515667]Victor Blackburn[/pid] - NK Duga Resa
['pid=8260046]Pascal Gusberti[/pid] - HL Football
['pid=9707253]Ariel Mita[/pid] - New West Stampedos
['pid=9370684]Adit Hooper[/pid] - HL Football
['pid=8016582]Gérard Gomery[/pid] - DB Rovers
['pid=8866964]Jean-Claude Ortega Santiago[/pid] - DB Rovers
['pid=9838418]Hector Krause[/pid] - Real Hawkes
['pid=8573240]Jamie Joshi[/pid] - FC Lanciers

20 yr
['pid=7919144]Diogo Gjini[/pid] - T Syndicated
['pid=8220008]Fadil O'Donnell[/pid] - Surrey Crackheads
['pid=7855443]RJ Hamedani[/pid] - FC Lanciers
['pid=6306052]Josh Robitaille[/pid] - Romania
['pid=8130586]Eftichiis Ryan[/pid] - Romania
['pid=8864132]Pierre-Marc Cicchini[/pid] - James Bay FC
['pid=8708141]Andres Vandermollen[/pid] - Slovakia
['pid=8729525]Dennis Jung[/pid] - Italy
['pid=8264492]Dave Auclair[/pid] - France
['pid=7696883]Konstantin Silvestrini[/pid] - FC Warriors

21 yr
['pid=7394159]Mark Garnett [/pid] - England
['pid=7294240]Simeon Ceron[/pid] - B&O
['pid=7444019]Alberto Disraeli[/pid] - T Syndicated
['pid=6413695]Ricardo Botero[/pid] - Pills United
['pid=7180542]Asaf Dauda[/pid] - New West Stampedos
['pid=7436639]Mathieu Labrecque[/pid] - Pills United
['pid=7629493]Matteo James[/pid] - Germany
['pid=7389974]Frederic Jang[/pid] - Australia
['pid=7444019]Alberto Disraeli[/pid] - T Syndicated

O21
['pid=4691797]Santiago Bradbury[/pid] - Peace River FC
['pid=5937086]Isa Bain[/pid]- USA
['pid=5933279]Alexander Verville [/pid] - Czech Republic
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2008-07-07 18:20:14
Defenders


16 yr

17 yr

18 yr
['pid=9977069]Orlando Brewer[/pid] - New West Stampedos
['pid=8729350]Mick el-Mubarak[/pid] - Germany
['pid=9900524]Tino Lemaître[/pid] - Hungary
['pid=9440579]James Meisner[/pid] - Snowhares
['pid=9440200]Damien Tobin[/pid] - Snowhares
['pid=9695959]John Nault[/pid] - Poland
['pid=9057011]Vincent Cento[/pid] - NK Duga Resa

19 yr
['pid=9173074]Derek Talbot[/pid] - Estonia
['pid=8857415]Rudy Lapierre[/pid] - Spain
['pid=8373817]Josue Foucault[/pid] - Finland
['pid=9608619]Ashraf Ramalho[/pid] - Third Lanark AC
['pid=9120897]Asmir Godfrey[/pid] - New West Stampedos
['pid=8933141]Sébastien Brennan[/pid] - FC DelijeWindsor

20 yr
['pid=9113585]Elliott Noe[/pid] - Snowhares
['pid=8925158]Israel Heinze[/pid] - Ben’s Eleven
['pid=8789867]Boris Langer[/pid] - New West Stampedos
['pid=8982186]Felipe Ashley[/pid] - Poland
['pid=8377737]Pierre-Charles Barnes[/pid] - Romania
['pid=8378564]Erik Provan[/pid] - FC Lanciers
['pid=8859947]Abraham Dulic[/pid] - Poland
['pid=9290282]Christoph Santiago[/pid] - Gresley Rovers

21 yr
['pid=6358543]Nevio Morabito[/pid] - FC DelijeWindsor
['pid=7069396]Poul Morrell[/pid] - Czech Republic

O21
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2008-07-07 18:22:00
Keepers


16 yrs

17 yrs
['pid=8737146]Chad Lombardo[/pid] - Spain

18 yrs
['pid=9841686]Stephen Arzani[/pid] - T Syndicated
['pid=8571092]Ricardo Delorme[/pid] - Romania

19 yrs
['pid=7800187]Janny ibn-Osman[/pid] - Venezuela
['pid=8573176]Hughes Irvine[/pid] - Romania

20 yrs
['pid=7705463]Henry Monsalve[/pid] - Italy

21 yrs
['pid=6124700]Janny Di Tulio[/pid] - Kamloops Lakers

O21
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2008-07-07 18:22:46
?

['pid=8864113]Rob Corradini[/pid] - 18 yr - decent “left side” skills - could still be anything
['pid=9705050]Andy McDonald[/pid] - 19 yr - Partizan 74 (plays everywhere - don’t know what he is)
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2008-07-07 18:30:24
A few other quick notes.

I didn't put much effort into the O21 (over 21) categories. These are intended for players 22+ that may still have NT aspirations. I can see them getting a little unwieldy - they may have to be given their own posts.

Nor did I put a great deal of effort into the U21 keepers. Fact of life is, it's not necessarily the best prospects that grow into NT keepers - it's those that happen to get the specialized training. For every 50 keeper trainees, I'd bet there's only 1 that gets trained up. And those tend to emerge from obscurity.

I didn't check all the links. If you find one that doesn't go where it is supposed to, please let me know.

I haven't really organized the categories (ie., the top name isn't necessarily the top prospect). We may want to try to do that at some point.

I'm THRILLED about some of these prospects. The 19 year old midfielders are especially promising. :D
2008-07-07 20:12:40
Seca, could you add Dawson Maillet, age 21?

He is not going to be as good as Caron but he may finished close, he has almost the same skills than Caron at 21 (except striker).
2008-07-07 21:37:22
There are no current NT players in these lists. Only potential players. Maillet is already on the squad. :)
2008-07-07 21:58:52
Maybe we should make a list like they have on international forum, "the best of" so we can see the exact sum of skills of players....
2008-07-07 22:14:06
so for DEFENDERS

defender, pace x 1.5
passing, playmaking, technique x1
stamina x 0.5


MIDS

Passing & playmaking x 1.5
Technique, pace & defending x 1
Striker x 0.5
stamina x 0.25




STRIKERS

technique, pace, striker x1



post players like this
[ pid=ID Player]Name Player[ /pid] - team name - [ b]skillpoints[ /b] I will remove spaces and put the players in the corresponding category
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2008-07-07 22:38:31
Those threads only work when the managers are active in the forums. A large number of the players listed above belong to managers who are not active here. Furthermore, I find those threads are often badly out of date. I didn't intend for this to be the managers database - more a method of monitoring our youths so no one falls through the cracks.

However, if you have the initiative to contact all those managers and get the data, that would be great. You will need to keep in regular contact with those managers to keep the data current.

If you have the time and energy to do that, I will happily turn this task over to you. I can easily edit my post so that you can copy and paste it into your own posts.
2008-07-07 22:43:21
Seca if you want, you can put together the database, and I will contact all the managers of players you indicated above(that is those who do not reply here). It is my job after all to contact the managers and ask about the skills of players.....
2008-07-07 22:53:27
There's no point in me being in the middle. I was trying to help out because I have gotten the sense you don't have much time to spare. But if you have the time to take this on, I'll edit the posts so you can copy&paste them into your own thread. Then you can do whatever you want with it.
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