Subject: Future personal Youth Camp for NT

why do you think, that we all are fools here? I am training youngsters for long time, and my transfers are significantly bigger than yours.. or do you want to say, that I am lucky to get so much money for rubbish work?? why do you think, that you are an expert in bringing up young players? in this community, there are 3 smart managers, who know exactly, how to train and doing good job (especially FC Subaru, now Metrotown)..
what is the additional value of your project?? I am selling well trained CAN players at the age of 21 for a lot of money. do you think, that buyers are paying me 6-12 mil EUR each purchase just to destroy CAN hot prospects?? btw. do you know, that I trained 90% of all average+ CAN players pulled last 3 seasons?

so now, hopefully you understand what I wanted to write.. the problem is not the quality of training, but the number and quality of young players.. in similar communities, there is usually 10+ youth academies, in CAN just 2 (FC Subaru is not selling his players)! Devtopia is right, there is a potential, that in couple of sk seasons, there could be 3 more YAs. this will improve the situation. did you know, that our 2nd best GK is GK[9], or that it's hard to find any MID (not good, I mean ANY), or that our future 18 yo star DEF has a skill sum 30 (def + pace = 15)?

so, how do you want exactly help? as Metrotown & Devtopia decided to keep theirs (1-2) good young players, there will probably be nobody worth to train on transfer market this season. I am waiting already 2 seasons to buy somebody (as I have free training slots available - CAN players trained in my team are very weak).. and be sure, that I did not miss anybody as I am checking all promoted youngsters every Thursday morning ;). so let's waste your time and wait with me mate :))..
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An help Is always an help, even better if it's freely offered by another expert user like me.

By the way, your reaction Is nonsense exagerated, as being in competitions with me without reason and goes in the wrong way than improving communities for opening to new people and grow.

You should think about that, maybe considering a different approach for newcomers or hosts.

Technical arguing comes After anyway.

As tomasko26 said, I am not planning to sell any of my youths since I am building an all-Canadian team.

I do not log on enough to win players off of transfers so it is the only way my team can survive sokker. I do hope for more users in Canadian sokker so that there will be a larger pool of Canadian players. Not only it would help the NT get better, but it would also give me other Canadian players that I can bring in.

Even though I have a youth school, between Metro, Dev, and me, I think I am the harshest as I do not keep anything below a certain value (which to my knowledge is very high) in my youth school. I guess I can make sure I have the max in the team (30 slots) before I start getting rid of youth players to help this cause.

Going 30 full slots is a good idea though, I'll do that too. Just pump out players and maybe some will have a future if they have talent.

mate, I am not competitive, I am just angry, because you are doing fools from managers here without any knowledge!! I have quite positive approach to newcomers, always happy to help, when they contact me.. I seriously want to help CAN, because my in-game business depends on this community. but I understand their position quite well playing in the league with 6 active teams, no competition, no motivation, no enough money for academies,..

did you already made your homework with checking other small nations number of youth academies? ok, you want to start your PROJECT :)? just help us, on transfer list, there is a sufficient 17 yo player Sean Simon [39133608] . this is the prospect, who is worth to train on CAN standard, go for him :). btw, he will be top5 best pulled players in CAN at the end of this season imo. crazy, isn't it? he is already on my "observed list", I am not joking! and this is the reason, why I want to buy players from other nations to train, because in CAN community, there is no potential to have positive balance with my business any more..

FC Subaru already confirmed his interest to keep young players in his team. and openly, I appreciate this, because I have great respect about his work. without him, U21 NT will probably be useless. so, you have now officially 2 managers producing young players..

I helped you with your homework a little..
Australia (31 users / 16 academies)
Azerbaijan (43/24)
Denmark (30/18)
Ecuador (19/14)
El Salvador (16/9)........ etc

CAN is a community with about 26-28 users (long time - now on 16 as 12 teams deleted last week). 3 teams producing young players and this is the reason, why I am so sceptic for last 2 seasons and predict big drop of senior NT soon (3-5 seasons). production and quality of young players is comparable to teams ranked 80-90

devtopia, but it's correct what the Italian guy saying.. I always recommend this to new managers. focus on 16-18 max yo players, 19-20 are not worth to fill the slots.. and if you are able to pull 16-17 yo players in first half of season, that's ideal - and this is probably the right way for new managers without enough money! if you pull 16 yo players early in the season, the influence of quality of YA coach is smaller and you can save money and invest to worse coach (not [15]) - and additionally, if the 16 yo player is talented, for you it's a "win" situation saving money and have good player
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Australia (31 users / 16 academies)

Thank you, interesting data.

Me and my friend are focusing on:

Scotland, Ireland, USA, Australia and Canada.

devtopia, but it's correct what the Italian guy saying.. I always recommend this to new managers. focus on 16-18 max yo players, 19-20 are not worth to fill the slots.. and if you are able to pull 16-17 yo players in first half of season, that's ideal

Alleluia, apart you can call me saturner, you too.

:)

Infact, i'm already experienced in that and I didn't come to fool anybody.
It would be opposite to my intentions and so, less than a waste of time.
Be sure.

I'm already glad having helped in stimulating a discussion so useful for Canadian community, this means more useful players will be promoted from youth Teams.

Sean Simon was just in shortlist so I Just awared my friend, maybe he will try to buy him.

As just said, I will take a look periodically being not invasive on market, if there will be the chance to buy and check some minor youngest Canadian picks by my friends, It may be a little good news here updated.

About me, I will personally start after a couple of seasons.

Nothing more, neither anything to be worried or to get angry about. It's just some little help.

:D
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ok saturner ;), I understand your position.. Scotland and Ireland are very good communities to invest your time.. there is many small countries on sokker (ranked 80-) where 90% of teams have YA and that's the different to CAN. here, many managers are not willing to open YA for some reasons. I was very optimistic (6 seasons ago) when started U21 campaign in this country - 30 managers super!! but reality was bad and unfortunately it's becoming worse (I remember 3 teams producing youngsters, which left this game because of lost motivation).. I am staying here only because there are 3 inteligent, experienced managers, who probably like this game, despite it's boring for them.. and they are relatively active on forum and supporting junior/senior NT

honestly, I am really surprised that somebody is interested to buy Sean Simon, because for me, this is useless player not worth to train (for additional sale). I just want to save him for senior NT, because he could be good enough (another 6 u18 players I have in my team for same reason - just 1 or 2 profitable).. so if you really want to help this community, just try to find new managers to improve competition :D

Very good thanks, let's talk about that. I've been in Canada for holidays many years ago, so I still have kind memories and I'm glad to help someway.

:)

About searching for new Canadian managers, it's not easy since I live in Italy, as obvious. I suppose an active community about communications with a nice approach could stimulate in the future new users to try to play here and maybe feel in friendly environment.

About Sean Simon, considering is young age and that we are in the first part of the season, it's just a matter about talent, as for my experience.
Every new youth has around 25% chance to have a good talent, and 5-10% chance to have a top talent.

One of my best striker was grown since 16yo with quite no skill and bought for ridicolous money, he lost a 5-6 trainings for injuries. But he's top talented. So consider he is now one of the best 26yo striker of Romanian potential NT player, we are talking about one of the most selective NT of all Sokker, as you know. This means the potential of youngest player is often suitable for every NT.

Back talking about Sean Simon, he's a case of a potential player to at least check about talent, then evaluating if it's worth to be trained. Obviously is just a little chance, but without any loss on have a try, as for my team management.
Technically talking, being a 17yo in the first part of the season, if he reveals to be good talented, if well trained he could become at least a decent defensive player.

But it's all to be backed next week at least, so it's just observed. Actually my friend DeddeKnight is waiting to adjust his economy and for tomorrow I will help him searching for an adequate staff and so organizing for the rebuilding of his team.
We will check from those five nations, trying to take care of less populated ones.

So no worries at all, we will just try to recover those player of a kind who seems with no chance as for starting skills and no certified talent, but enough young to have their chance if they will reveal to be at least good talented.

There are just potential possible advantages in that, for both NT. So consider me and my friend as a friendly vacuum trying to save from firing those player apparently with no chance, but who could still have one in the future, especially on mid and long term period.

I suppose this would be appreciable by the community and, personally, I'm very glad to be participative with each of them, smaller ones by first.

:D
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Sean Simon didn’t sell for 2 dollars last time and now I have offer for 180k. Wth?

additionally, he was not bought by this Italian guy, who want to help us :), as agreed above.
embarrassing start of "the project" but doesn't matter :D.
Metro, be happy, Simon is not worth that money at all

i think you have quite an aggressive attitude toward him anyone who wants to help should be welcomed
i would understand if he was a candidate for the U21 but he did not even apply in elections.
He tried same in Scotland and we welcome him openly :)

mate, first of all, his approach was aggressive ;). he made fools from us immediately, despite knowing anything about this community.. at least me and FC Subaru, we both are more experienced in training as he is (you can check the transfers)

I lost a lot of time with him to explain the situation and gave him a go.. we agreed, that his friend will buy Simon .. just read our conversation above.. because of this deal, I ignored Simon's transfer on Saturday, despite I wanted him to my team.. now Simon is gone, that's my first experience with this guy.. what kind of approach do you await from me??

honestly, I don't understand your comment about U21 NT candidature.. I would never attack anybody because of candidature. there were already managers trying to take over and I respected them

I'm very sad about your words. My last intention would have been to be "aggressive" or to "fool" somebody here and in other communities. I already said I'm here just willing to be of help.

Please, completely remind about it. Or instead, let me see where you should see I showed something like that in my words.

Waiting for mutual clearance, any possible technical consideration becomes obviously a secondary matter.

i think you have quite an aggressive attitude toward him anyone who wants to help should be welcomed
i would understand if he was a candidate for the U21 but he did not even apply in elections.
He tried same in Scotland and we welcome him openly :)

Thanks for your true witnessing.

Same good feeling happened in some other communities, with mutual appreciation.

My friend just started to buy and train first cheapest (due to his few economical resources) player of those communities nationality, to check their talent by first evaluation.

mate, this is really waste of time... Your friend shortlisted Simon immediately as we agreed that (that's the reason, why I gave up the interest to follow Simon on TL). and Simon was not sold for 1 EUR, so for sure no financial issue

later today, there will be 17 yo Canadian player from devtopia on TL, your ignoration will be appreciated :), I will train him and help Canadian community this time :)
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