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Subject: Youth Squad Updates

2009-12-09 17:21:16
Training juniors Age Skill level Formation Weeks

Stewart Galbraith 16 adequate outfield 2

Bruce MacRobert 16 good outfield 2

Stevie Munro 17 average outfield 3

Ally MacKindlay 18 average GK 7

Zico MacAdie 17 solid outfield 11

Irvine Hannah 16 solid outfield 25


think a got lucky with ages
2009-12-09 17:22:39
Lucky ??

jammy bugger bro lol - Macrobert could be quality !!!
2009-12-10 06:42:01
Just pulled this solid "Goalkeeper


Phil Lachie, age: 18

club: YoYo, country: Scotland
value: 17 850 £, wage: 390 £
very good form, tragic tactical discipline
height: 187 cm

weak stamina tragic keeper
average pace good defender
hopeless technique unsatisfactory playmaker
unsatisfactory passing tragic striker

So I'm guessing that the coach guesses the players position aswell as their talent.
2009-12-10 08:54:09
oh great news that one - NOT!
2009-12-10 08:55:29
In other news, the junior leagues have arrived :)
2009-12-10 08:57:27
no way!! shock horror maybe the new ME has arrived as well just in time for the Chumps Cup
2009-12-10 09:01:29
Borkos pulled a brilliant keeper today...

Norbert Gołysz, age: 19
club: The Evil`s, country: Polska
value: 479 000 zł, wage: 6 100 zł
very good form, tragic tactical discipline
height: 164 cm

poor stamina poor keeper
solid pace very good defender
solid technique weak playmaker
average passing adequate striker

Think I'll have to re-think my plans with my brilliant gk youth now.
2009-12-10 09:20:34
my youth player who i expected to come out as outstanding
is now down to a solid
2009-12-10 10:20:37
Here's my latest youth school. Some are obviously better and worse than they appear.


Tommy Begg 19 outstanding outfield 2



Danny MacMonies 17 good outfield 3



Leon Carmichael 19 incredible GK 3



Andy Quirie 17 incredible outfield 4



Lyle Fisher 19 solid outfield 5



Christian MacWilliam 17 adequate outfield 8



Euan Gethins 19 formidable outfield 8



Chris Tawesson 19 very good outfield 9



Dylan Hill 17 good outfield 9



Ronnie Binnie 18 formidable outfield 11



Bart McVeigh 18 adequate outfield 13



Colin Moncreiffe 17 very good outfield 13



Owen Rusk 16 good outfield 13



Kerr Sweeney 16 adequate outfield 17



Dexter Gibson 16 adequate outfield 19



Boyd Austin 16 solid outfield 19



Ernie MacVurie 17 solid outfield 19



Stew MacVicar 16 solid outfield 19



Gordon Fletcher 16 solid outfield 20



Jake Morgan 18 solid outfield 21



Cameron MacLeverty 16 average outfield 22



Joseph Payne 18 solid outfield 26



Stewart McEvely 16 poor outfield 29



Neil Aitcheson 16 unsatisfactory outfield 30



Gregor Matheson 16 unsatisfactory outfield 33


Quirie is interesting, straight 4 week pops to formidable then 3 weeks to outstanding. The following week the graph shows a drop to formidable then all the way down to tragic. His skill level shows Incredible.
Dont know who has been drinking more, me or the youth coach! :)



2009-12-10 10:21:53
this was indeed a bug and is now fixed on test at least
2009-12-10 10:22:54
So my youth coach shouldn't have been drinking?


Sacked!!!
(edited)
2009-12-10 11:28:53
Some very weird talent levels according to SO

Pops (12):

Jay Aitcheson (1): solid → excellent
Blair Law (2): poor → weak
Phillip MacSorley (3): good → solid
Brodie Kinnieson (5): adequate → good
William McAllister (5): adequate → good
Elliot McCulloch (8): adequate → good
Derek MacMenzies (9): adequate → solid
Norm Webster (9): average → good
Mark MacMurdoch (11): adequate → solid
Charlie Wilkie (12): adequate → good
Rab McEwan (15): good → solid
Marc Tokely (17): adequate → good

Name                         Weeks      Skill      Pops Avg.Weeks/pop      Projected Level
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
William Morrison            0           weak         1               ≥ 3                               ≈ weak
Jay Aitcheson                1       excellent     4             4.33            excellent (10.23)
Blair Law                         2           weak         1               ≥ 1                               ≈ weak
Archie Waddell               2        average      1               ≥ 5                        ≈ adequate
Ben MacAslan                3       very good     4             4.33             very good (9.92)
Phillip MacSorley           3           solid         3                9                         solid (8.33)
Brodie Kinnieson            5           good         2                9                         good (7.56)
William McAllister          5           good         3                6                         good (7.83)
Jamie Limont                  7       adequate     3               1.5           formidable (11.33)
Elliot McCulloch             8           good         3                3                very good (9.67)
Keith McGeady               8           solid         4             3.33              excellent (10.7)
Derek MacMenzies        9           solid         3                4               excellent (10.25)
Norm Webster                9           good         2               10                          good (7.9)
Mark MacMurdoch        11         solid         3               2.5           outstanding (12.4)
Grant Paton                   11     adequate     1               ≥ 9                               ≈ solid
Marc Bowers                  12    formidable    4                5                incredible (13.6)
Tony Lockhart               12     very good     2               13              excellent (10.08)
Charlie Wilkie                12         good         1               ≥ 5                       ≈ very good
Hamish Baillie               14     very good     3               4.5           outstanding (12.33)
Innes Dawson               15         good         2               12                        solid (8.33)
Finlay MacAllan            15      average      0                0                         ≤ very good
Rab McEwan                  15         solid         2                1               (23)
Iain Burns                      16         weak         -1               0                            ≈ average
Marc Tokely                  17         good         2                8                very good (9.12)
Connor MacCasland     19         poor         0                0                         ≤ very good
Bryce MacKintosh         22     adequate     0                0                          ≤ excellent

2009-12-10 12:12:58
My player was at outstanding yesterday.

Today, as he's available to be promoted to the first team, he dropped to excellent.

Are we looking at a system where we don't know the actual skill of the player until the last minute?
2009-12-10 12:30:41
Nope. this up and down mess with junior skills is just for the time being.
what's happened is that as the new system has just kicked in, the youth coaches assessment of your youths' was very rough. The longer your youth stays and plays in the juniors the better the estimate will be (also having a better youth coach will give you a better estimate).


For your current juniors, it is actually best if you use the skill and talent of your trainees under the old system to work out what they will end up as.

Why i say this, is that in actual fact there has been no change to your youths' skills under the new system.
All thats happened is that an extra element of coach judgement is blurring the skills being reported for your youths.

So, say you had a youth that in the old youth system popped every 5 weeks and was expected to come out as an outstanding +0 pull in 2 weeks time.
Under the new system, that youth will still come out as an outstanding +0 pull, no matter what your coach guesses his skill is.
His actual skills have not changed.
(edited)
2009-12-10 12:38:01
The graphs are no longer showing tragic but my youth coach is still on the sauce :)

Nice Talent ;)
2009-12-10 15:19:25
4 pops today , a 16yr old to unsat - after 1 week

and Stevie Rae 17 average outfield 26 - he has popped 3/3 , fingers crossed he keeps it up !