Subject: [NT]Nederland - Suomi

Hehe, 4-1 :)
I am so happy :)

We are almost qualified. But we dont have to underestimate Slovensko, in the last game.

The high DEF line did work, nice score against Suomi :)

Congratulations!

Suomi seems to have had a bit of bad luck. They played really well on the midfield and seemed poised to score most of the time. Only they didn't whereas we countered quite effectively. In the end the stats seem to be in our favour, but I feel the actual match wasn't all that great. Plenty of room for improvement.

Well ... Slovensko is raping France play-wise ... only not goal-wise atm.

1-0 for France.
Dont know what to say.

If we win, we obviously qualify.
If we draw, we qualify.
If we lose with a difference of 1 goal, we qualify (no matter whats the result on other game).
I hope we'll win, though

dat hoge verdedigen zag er naar mijn mening niet goed uit. Ze kwamen er vaak goed door, onnodig. Tegen een land met sterke aanvallers was Nederland kansloos geweest

DEF linie was niets mis mee, spelen met maar 2 MIDs die daar alles moesten belopen om de gaten te dichten waren echter wel een probleem, zeker omdat de MIDs niet overal in de gaten stonden in de tactiek. Die MIDs konden de ballen ook nog eens niet goed kwijt aan de spitsen omdat die minder goed stonden. Die moeten veel meer een jump maken zoals ik hem al heb laten weten. Hierdoor verergerde het ook.

2 MIDs is het met de nieuwe ME vragen om problemen, zeker als andere linies niet perfect staan.

I will translate later when i have time.


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@Poey, wil je voortaan na mij reageren (hahaha).

Eigenlijk heeft het 2 redenen.
1 Als je goed kijkt maken de Finnen wel gebruik van jumps.
2 Nederland had te weinig middenvelders opgesteld. Poey kan het vast nog wat duidelijker maken.
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Tegen een land met sterke aanvallers was Nederland kansloos geweest

De aanvaller van Finland is overigens van het allerhoogste niveau wat je kan tegenkomen en heeft daarnaast goddelijk vorm ;)

Maar goed, feit is dat er veel verbeterpunten zijn voor Anaconda om aan te werken.
2 MIDs is een zeer slechte optie met de huidige ME, hetzelfde geldt voor spitsen die op 1 punt blijven hangen in de tactic editor.

Edit: 4 goals lijkt leuk, maar 2 waren afstandsschoten en 1 een strafschop.
Vrijwel geen uitgespeelde mogelijkheden.

Translation will be here asap.
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Google translate is doing a decent job :)

Yeah, 2 were long shots and one penalty, but we also had a couple of 1 on 1 with the keeper. 2 or 3 headers also. We WERE supposed to score some goals. Maybe if a long shot wouldn't have been in, another chance will have been a goal (speaking from the engine "point of view" :P).

About the 2 mids... It's difficult to close all the lines with them, Suomi still had 2-3 more chances than the 4 shots showed in statistics. But the 3 strikers did help, I think that at 2 goals, all 3 of them participated. One is for sure, pass from the central striker to left striker, this one passes with the header towards the right striker, shot from the edge of the box and goal. 2nd goal, I think, pretty damn nice to watch :D

Also, I don't really agree with the opinion that the new engine suppose you should have more mids, to pass more and create more chances by passing more with these mids. If the oponent stays well in defence, then you won't create too many chances with this "tiki-taka barcelona" style.

Also, I don't really agree with the opinion that the new engine suppose you should have more mids, to pass more and create more chances by passing more with these mids. If the oponent stays well in defence, then you won't create too many chances with this "tiki-taka barcelona" style.

Exactly..., now ( kind off)you did mention the weakness of this tactic...
You need to let the strikers jump to kill the defence of the opponent! Nothing stands this if you put the strikers on different places ( than you will find the hole in the defence somewhere) and let them make jumps. You will see that if you have at least 3 MIDs they will pass the ball with strikers running after it 1 to 1 to the goalkeeper.

Edit: if the opponent will try low defence to kill the jumping strikers in this ME they will have new problems..., the defenders will get the ball from the MIDs ( MIDs pass back to defenders in this ME if the opponent has a good tactic without holes) and this is very dangerous if they are near their own goal....

This ME brings me to the following:
- strikers should make jumps and should be at different places
- DEF line must be high
- You need at least 3 MIDs
- winger is almost useless because of:
1. pitch size can be changed
2. more difficult to score heading
3. passing of wingers is more straight instead of high in the air ( dutch would be easier to explain)
- 1 striker is not enough because it is more difficult to score in this ME.

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Also, I don't really agree with the opinion that the new engine suppose you should have more mids, to pass more and create more chances by passing more with these mids. If the oponent stays well in defence, then you won't create too many chances with this "tiki-taka barcelona" style.

Almost all Finnish chances were the result of midfield play. There are three solid reasons to invest in your midfield:

- with two mids your guys will run all over the field trying to get the ball, which will exhaust them
- it is harder to recuperate the ball, resulting in less possession and therefore less opportunity to create chances
- more possible supply lines to the strikers

The high def line solved some of our problems. The Finnish forwards got caught offside more than once and the def line allowed for a lot more midfield presence on the middle area of the pitch. The strikers played very well together, all the more so because the Finnish tactic didn't cover all the relevant supply lines. If you have a look at the game against the French, you'll notice the difference. Our strikers were positioned in a very similar manner, but were stopped very effectively most of the time. You really need to look for a more dynamic midfield which is able to use the flanks as well.

Nice victory today!