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Subject: »[I] BELANGRIJK SOKKER NIEUWS

2022-06-23 13:14:30
Die Dev Diary 63: Nieuwe trainingsregels ontbreekt bij persruimte bij mij (ook in het Engels).
2022-06-25 20:01:54
nog niets geimplementeerd zie ik
2022-07-14 20:54:31
Voor mensen die een eerste indruk willen hebben van de nieuwe training:

https://sokker.org/pl/app/training/training-setup/

Dit is alleen een demo en heeft nog geen effect op de training!
2022-07-14 21:08:33
Begrijp ik nu goed dat je per linie maar 1 advanced training kan geven? Dus bijvoorbeeld 5 spitsen scoren, 4 middenvelders passen en 1 verdediger pace?
2022-07-14 21:41:30
Daar ben ik ook benieuwd naar.
2022-07-14 22:31:15
Dat is inderdaad de bedoeling. Per linie kan je dus één trainingsvorm kiezen. Dat is vanaf het begin af aan ook het idee geweest volgens mij.
2022-07-15 01:07:42
kun je dan nu 10 spelers trainen
je kan dan 5 verdedigers en 5 middenvelders dezelfde training geven

Als ik naar mijn trainingspagina zie ik dat niet staan zoals die link
van Pandula
(edited)
2022-07-15 01:30:26
''Voor mensen die een eerste indruk willen hebben van de nieuwe training:

https://sokker.org/pl/app/training/training-setup/

Dit is alleen een demo en heeft nog geen effect op de training!''

Nog niet ;)
2022-07-15 09:21:40
Vanaf volgende week zal het actief zijn in het spel.
De link is enkel een demo nog
2022-07-15 09:38:28
dus dan kun je alle linies trainen
2022-07-15 15:16:47
CALENDAR OF TRAINING RULE CHANGES:

- [14.07.2022] this was the second-to-last training under the old rules.
- [15.07.2022 - 21.07.2022] the whole week from tomorrow until next Thursday is the last week in which the old training rules apply, remember to position your players accordingly.
- [21.07.2022] on this day will be the last training under the old rules
- [22.07.2022] on this date the new rules will take effect, this will also be the first match day to count towards the new training algorithm.
- [22.07.2022] the old training settings page will be replaced by a new one with the interface shown below.
- [28.07.2022] on this day your players will train under the new rules for the first time.
2022-07-15 18:13:11
Jep, met maximum van 10 spelers per week en iedere linie een andere training
2022-07-16 14:39:36
Oke, je kan dus b.v. 5 mid, 3def en 2 att trainen op techniek. Dan heb je alle orders op techniek gezet, maar hoe zit het dan met general training van de rest? Blijft dat of gaat dat dan verloren? Of krijgt de rest alleen general training op techniek als je dat ingesteld hebt?
2022-07-16 16:21:22
EJ to Feuntje
MAIN CHANGES:
- we see quite a few new elements, some of them are used to set up our training, and some of them are auxiliary and informative.
- first of all, we have three new sections, which the following descriptions will give an overview of the new rules at the same time.

* TRAINING PLANNING:
- the first of these is used for assigning the type of training for a particular formation.
- you can assign one type of training to each formation: GK, DEF, MID, ATT.
- it is possible to assign the same type of training to several formations.
- this allows us to train between 1 and 4 different skills each week, depending on the choices made in this menu.

* ADVANCED TRAINING:
- we have 10 slots available where we can assign players to complete advanced training.
- this training will be the most similar in effect to the current training, however, you will gain more flexibility and have more influence on raising the effectiveness of the training.
- each player selected in this section has to be assigned to a formation with which he will train during the week. Based on this assignment, the player will receive training type which is the same as the one you assigned in the planning window.
- the more games and minutes a player plays in a week with the given formation (GK, DEF, MID, ATT), the more effective the training will be.
- the order in which games are played with different orders does not matter, all minutes from the indicated formation will count.
- it is also possible to select a player who has not played in a week, but his training efficiency will be significantly lower.
- the effectiveness can be additionally increased by playing in a national team match or if your team played against better opponents.
- to make things easier, one of the columns will show the approximate efficiency - this will help you manage the progress of your players.

* GENERAL TRAINING:
- in this section we see players who have not been selected for advanced training.
- the general training rules will be very similar to the current rules for players who did not fit into the training schedule that week.
- as with advanced training, we can influence the effectiveness of general training by assigning players to a formation.
- the more matches and minutes a player plays in a given formation, the more effective the overall training will be.
- players who have not played in any matches during the week will not receive any general training.
- as in the previous section, you get columns with information about minutes played and approximate efficiency.

Zo, die staat :)
(edited)
2022-07-16 16:56:01
Feuntje to EJ
Thanks, ????.
2022-07-16 17:02:36
EJ to Feuntje
Weet niet waarom de vraagtekens maar denk dat je nog een vraag hebt dus zal ik het nog uitgebreider voor je sturen :) Dit is Terrion iemand die in de testserver heeft mee deelgenomen, dit is zijn ervaring op de nieuwe trainingssysteem.

''Well, I had access to the test server so I had time enough

The new training involves new unknown factors. Probably I will let you configure them, but for now I will just put some "random" values for them. This is how the new training will work in ''Sokker Asistente''. Let me know if you read something different from an official source:

- General training: no changes. Well, a little one: it will be applied to the trained skill too. So, if you train pace, for example, 90% of the pace training will come from the main coach and 10% will come from the general training, which comes from the main coach too but also from the assistants. In practice there will be no much difference unless you have no assistants at all or very poor ones compared to your main coach

- Advanced training: players with advanced training will have 50 training points regardless whether they play or not during the week. The minutes played will be added divided by 2. For example:

Minutes played -> training points
------------------ -----------------
0 -> 50
90 -> 95 (50 + 45)
75 -> 87 (50 + 37)
100 -> 100

Besides, there are two types of trained skills:

1.- Left side skills will be trained at 100% regardless the formation of the player.

2.- Right side skills will depend on the formation. If you train defender to MID formation, for example, they will train slower. Since we don't know how much slower, I set them to train at 50% compared to a full training, plus the general training effect

- Formation training: this is, players who aren't in the advanced training. I've put a 10% to them, plus the general training''