Subject: [Projekt] Endskill Skillsumme

Name: Roduit, Cornell
ID: 10251252
Endskill: 9.5
Skillsumme: 29
KondiLvl: 0
Alter: 19
Talent: 6
TrainerLvl: ~14.1
Wochen: 14
SkillUps: 2
AlterYS: 18

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Name: Krebs, Jean
ID: 10311184
Endskill: 8.75
Skillsumme: 27
KondiLvl: 0
Alter: 18
Talent: 4
TrainerLvl: ~14.1
Wochen: 15
SkillUps: 3
AlterYS: ?

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Name: Menezes, Luzian
ID: 10616693
Endskill: 11.31
Skillsumme: 30
KondiLvl: 6
Alter: 20
Talent: 6.5
TrainerLvl: ~14.3
Wochen: 32
SkillUps: 5
AlterYS: 18

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Name: Vailati, Gabriel
ID: 10251253
Endskill: 11.5
Skillsumme: 38
KondiLvl: 4
Alter: 18
Talent: 4
TrainerLvl: ~14.5
Wochen: 18
SkillUps: 4
AlterYS: ?

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Name: Zeiler, Gregory
ID: 10663588
Endskill: 10.66
Skillsumme: 34
KondiLvl: 2
Alter: 20
Talent: 6
TrainerLvl: ~14.5
Wochen: 32
SkillUps: 5
AlterYS: 18

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Name: Däppen, Nino
ID: Gibt's nicht mehr
Endskill: 10.0
Skillsumme: 28
KondiLvl: 4
Alter: 19
Talent: 5.5
TrainerLvl: ~14.7
Wochen: 16
SkillUps: 3
AlterYS: ?

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Name: Mobwete, Ben
ID: 10751710
Endskill: 10.87
Skillsumme: 34
KondiLvl: 1
Alter: 20
Talent: 5.75
TrainerLvl: ~14.7
Wochen: 23
SkillUps: 4
AlterYS: 18

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Name: Egli, Leandro
ID: 11008416
Endskill: 8.32
Skillsumme: 23
KondiLvl: 4
Alter: 19
Talent: 6.33
TrainerLvl: ~14.8
Wochen: 24
SkillUps: 4
AlterYS: ?

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Name: Gentizon, Casper
ID: 11008413
Endskill: 9.5
Skillsumme: 27
KondiLvl: 1
Alter: 19
Talent: 4.00
TrainerLvl: ~14.9
Wochen: 18
SkillUps: 4
AlterYS: ?

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Name: Hässig, Flavio
ID: 11138790
Endskill: 10.43
Skillsumme: 30
KondiLvl: 3
Alter: 17
Talent: 4.66
TrainerLvl: ~14.9
Wochen: 21
SkillUps: 4
AlterYS: 16

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Name: Geber, Jon
ID: 11259087
Endskill: 12.53
Skillsumme: 35
KondiLvl: 5
Alter: 18
Talent: 3.8
TrainerLvl: ~14.9
Wochen: 25
SkillUps: 6
AlterYS: ?

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Name: Venzin, Georg
ID: 10810294
Endskill: 13.75
Skillsumme: 42
KondiLvl: 4
Alter: 19
Talent: 4.00
TrainerLvl: ~14.7
Wochen: 31
SkillUps: 7
AlterYS: ?



So, das wär's von mir, habe nicht mehr Daten.

Hier der von heute
Name: Bonifazius Winsenborg
ID: 11530651
Endskill: 8
Skillsumme: 24
KondiLvl: 0
Alter: 17
Talent: 4
TrainerLvl: 14
Wochen: 6
SkillUps: 2
AlterYS: 17

Vielen Dank an euch beide!!!

78 Daten sinds insgesamt mittlerweile

hab einen mit hoher Kondi

Name: Samuel Seger
ID: 11524003
Endskill: 13,0
Skillsumme: 40
KondiLvl: 6
Alter: 18
Talent: 4
TrainerLvl: 15
Wochen: 28
SkillUps: 7
AlterYS: 17

hier könnt ihr weiterhin eure Daten reinpacken :)

Name: Laurens Ahlfeld
ID: 11977847
Endskill: 11,3
Skillsumme: 38
KondiLvl: 2
Alter: 18
Talent: 3,8
TrainerLvl: 13,7
Wochen: 22
SkillUps: 6

ich hab im sv die daten von über 100 gezogenen jugendspielern. die übersicht gibt leider nicht alle erwünschten daten preis.

gibts da ne andere möglichkeit, ohne jeden einelnen spieler hier per copy/paste zu posten?

hm gute frage :)
wo sind die SV-Profis? ;)

ansonsten: kann man mehrere teams anlegen im SV? bzw. zweimal installieren und im einen könnte ich dann evtl deine jugi daten laden? falls man die separat verschicken kann. kA ob das so geht. 100 jugis wäre natürlich super zur informationsgewinnung *lechz*

gruß
Pat

hab gerade entdeckt, dass der sv eine copy-to-clipboard-funktion hat. leider schmiert mir der sv dabei ab.

Manchmal ja, aber nicht immer. Bei mir jedenfalls

jo, jetzt hämgt er sich zwar nicht auf, aber kopiert nicht die richtigen daten, sondern nur die der übersicht.

Average skill level very good (9.24)
Number of juniors 113

ier mal ein anfang, hab lange weile. :)

Mirco Ahmut, age: 19 [+2] (ID 5054557)
[10 +6]excellent junior +2 (10,53)
Average pop: 3,80
[10]excellent form

[0]tragic stamina [0]tragic keeper
[6]adequate pace [7]good defender
[5]average technique [5]average playmaker
[6]adequate passing [6]adequate striker

Sum of skills: [35] = [35] + [0] stamina

4 4 5 5 5 5 6 6 6 7 7 7 7 8 8 8 8 9 9 9 9 10 10 10
Trainers average skill [15]magical (15,3)

Weeks all 23 weeks
Exit date 2008-06-12
Begin skill level [4]weak
Begin age 17
Number of pops 6
Spent money 24.000 €


Frederik Aßmann, age: 17 [+1] (ID 5737206)
[9 +3]very good junior (9,00)
Average pop: 5,00
[7]good form

[2]unsatisfactory stamina [0]tragic keeper
[5]average pace [7]good defender
[7]good technique [3]poor playmaker
[3]poor passing [5]average striker

Sum of skills: [32] = [30] + [2] stamina

6 6 7 7 7 7 7 8 8 8 8 8 9

Trainers average skill [15]magical (15,6)

Weeks all 13 weeks
Exit date 2008-06-26
Begin skill level [6]adequate
Begin age 16
Number of pops 3
Spent money 13.000 €


Martin Balbierz, age: 17 [+1] (ID 5854234)
[8 +2]solid junior (8,00)
Average pop: 7,00
[9]very good form

[3]poor stamina [6]adequate keeper
[6]adequate pace [0]tragic defender
[0]tragic technique [1]hopeless playmaker
[6]adequate passing [1]hopeless striker

Sum of skills: [23] = [20] + [3] stamina

6 6 6 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 8

Trainers average skill [15]magical (15,7)

Weeks all 11 weeks
Exit date 2008-06-26
Begin skill level [6]adequate
Begin age 16
Number of pops 2
Spent money 11.000 €


Franz Bäumel, age: 16 [+0] (ID 2429197)
[7 +1]good junior +3 (7,?)
Average pop: ~4,00
[9]very good form

[0]tragic stamina [0]tragic keeper
[2]unsatisfactory pace [6]adequate defender
[4]weak technique [4]weak playmaker
[5]average passing [2]unsatisfactory striker

Sum of skills: [23] = [23] + [0] stamina

6 6 7 7 7 7

Trainers average skill [15]magical (15,0)

Weeks all 6 weeks
Exit date 2007-02-22
Begin skill level [6]adequate
Begin age 16
Number of pops 1
Spent money 6.000 €


Sebastian Benthaus, age: 19 [+1] (ID 2902870)
[11 +8]formidable junior +1 (11,27)
Average pop: 3,71
[9]very good form

[6]adequate stamina [1]hopeless keeper
[6]adequate pace [5]average defender
[0]tragic technique [7]good playmaker
[6]adequate passing [1]hopeless striker

Sum of skills: [32] = [26] + [6] stamina

3 4 4 4 4 5 5 5 5 6 6 6 7 7 7 7 8 8 8 8 9 9 9 9 10 10 10 11 11

Trainers average skill [14]brilliant (14,8)

Weeks all 28 weeks
Exit date 2007-10-11
Begin skill level [3]poor
Begin age 18
Number of pops 8
Spent money 29.000 €


Lorenz Berthold, age: 17 [+1] (ID 2157561)
[12 +7]outstanding junior +2 (12,60)
Average pop: 3,33
[9]very good form

[0]tragic stamina [0]tragic keeper
[5]average pace [3]poor defender
[10]excellent technique [10]excellent playmaker
[4]weak passing [7]good striker

Sum of skills: [39] = [39] + [0] stamina

5 5 6 6 7 7 7 7 8 8 8 9 9 9 9 10 10 10 10 11 11 11 12 12 12

Trainers average skill [14]brilliant (14,6)

Weeks all 26 weeks
Exit date 2007-06-07
Begin skill level [5]average
Begin age 16
Number of pops 7
Spent money 26.000 €


Markus Beutelsen, age: 19 [+1] (ID 2803226)
[10 +5]excellent junior +3 (10,67)
Average pop: 4,50
[7]good form

[1]hopeless stamina [0]tragic keeper
[10]excellent pace [8]solid defender
[3]poor technique [0]tragic playmaker
[6]adequate passing [0]tragic striker

Sum of skills: [28] = [27] + [1] stamina

5 5 6 6 6 6 7 7 7 7 7 8 8 8 8 8 9 9 9 9 10 10 10 10

Trainers average skill [14]brilliant (14,6)

Weeks all 23 weeks
Exit date 2007-08-23
Begin skill level [5]average
Begin age 18
Number of pops 5
Spent money 24.000 €



Christoph Bieneck, age: 19 [+1] (ID 3004708)
[9 +4]very good junior +2 (9,40)
Average pop: 5,00
[8]solid form

[1]hopeless stamina [0]tragic keeper
[7]good pace [8]solid defender
[7]good technique [1]hopeless playmaker
[1]hopeless passing [3]poor striker

Sum of skills: [28] = [27] + [1] stamina

5 5 5 5 5 6 6 6 6 6 7 7 7 7 7 8 8 8 8 8 9 9 9


Trainers average skill [14]brilliant (14,9)

Weeks all 23 weeks
Exit date 2007-09-13
Begin skill level [5]average
Begin age 18
Number of pops 4
Spent money 23.000 €


Fritz Bierbaron, age: 17 [+1] (ID 2068745)
[13 +6]incredible junior (13,00)
Average pop: 4,40
[10]excellent form

[3]poor stamina [0]tragic keeper
[9]very good pace [2]unsatisfactory defender
[7]good technique [9]very good playmaker
[7]good passing [5]average striker

Sum of skills: [42] = [39] + [3] stamina

7 7 7 7 8 8 8 8 9 9 9 9 10 10 10 10 10 11 11 11 11 12 12 12 12 12 13

Trainers average skill [14]brilliant (14,6)

Weeks all 28 weeks
Exit date 2007-05-31
Begin skill level [7]good
Begin age 16
Number of pops 6
Spent money 29.000 €



Wolf Bingel, age: 17 [+1] (ID 6428801)
[14 +7]brilliant junior (14,00)
Average pop: 3,50
[7]good form

[6]adequate stamina [1]hopeless keeper
[2]unsatisfactory pace [10]excellent defender
[1]hopeless technique [5]average playmaker
[7]good passing [10]excellent striker

Sum of skills: [42] = [36] + [6] stamina

7 7 7 7 8 8 8 9 9 9 10 10 10 10 11 11 11 12 12 12 12 13 13 13 13 14


Trainers average skill [16]unearthly (16,0)

Weeks all 26 weeks
Exit date 2008-12-17
Begin skill level [7]good
Begin age 16
Number of pops 7
Spent money 27.000 €


Mario Braunstorfer, age: 18 [+1] (ID 3662838)
[11 +6]formidable junior (11,00)
Average pop: 4,00
[9]very good form

[4]weak stamina [0]tragic keeper
[7]good pace [7]good defender
[2]unsatisfactory technique [6]adequate playmaker
[3]poor passing [5]average striker

Sum of skills: [34] = [30] + [4] stamina

5 6 6 6 6 7 7 7 7 8 8 8 8 9 9 9 9 10 10 10 10 11

Trainers average skill [14]brilliant (15,0)

Weeks all 21 weeks
Exit date 2007-11-28
Begin skill level [5]average
Begin age 17
Number of pops 6
Spent money 22.000 €

Nicolas Colberg, age: 19 [+1] (ID 6878368)
[10 +3]excellent junior (10,00)
Average pop: 4,00
[7]good form

[5]average stamina [0]tragic keeper
[0]tragic pace [3]poor defender
[4]weak technique [0]tragic playmaker
[4]weak passing [10]excellent striker

Sum of skills: [26] = [21] + [5] stamina

7 7 7 8 8 8 8 9 9 9 9 10

Trainers average skill [16]unearthly (16,0)

Weeks all 12 weeks
Exit date 2008-11-05
Begin skill level [7]good
Begin age 18
Number of pops 3
Spent money 12.000 €



Valentin Corbach, age: 17 [+1] (ID 7824927)
[7 +1]good junior +5 (7,?)
Average pop: ~6,00
[9]very good form

[2]unsatisfactory stamina [1]hopeless keeper
[1]hopeless pace [6]adequate defender
[1]hopeless technique [6]adequate playmaker
[0]tragic passing [6]adequate striker

Sum of skills: [23] = [21] + [2] stamina

6 6 7 7 7 7 7 7

Trainers average skill [16]unearthly (16,0)

Weeks all 7 weeks
Exit date 2009-02-05
Begin skill level [6]adequate
Begin age 16
Number of pops 1
Spent money 8.000 €



Kuno Corbach, age: 18 [+2] (ID 6486248)
[12 +8]outstanding junior (12,00)
Average pop: 4,14
[9]very good form

[2]unsatisfactory stamina [0]tragic keeper
[5]average pace [8]solid defender
[8]solid technique [7]good playmaker
[5]average passing [2]unsatisfactory striker

Sum of skills: [37] = [35] + [2] stamina

4 4 4 5 5 5 5 6 6 6 6 7 7 7 7 7 8 8 8 8 9 9 9 9 10 10 10 10 11 11 11 11 12

Trainers average skill [16]unearthly (16,0)

Weeks all 33 weeks
Exit date 2009-02-11
Begin skill level [4]weak
Begin age 16
Number of pops 8
Spent money 34.000 €



Odysseus Dengler, age: 19 [+1] (ID 1982212)
[7 +2]good junior (7,00)
Average pop: 4,00
[9]very good form

[1]hopeless stamina [0]tragic keeper
[2]unsatisfactory pace [7]good defender
[5]average technique [2]unsatisfactory playmaker
[4]weak passing [3]poor striker

Sum of skills: [24] = [23] + [1] stamina

5 6 6 6 7

Trainers average skill [14]brilliant (14,2)

Weeks all 7 weeks
Exit date 2006-12-28
Begin skill level [5]average
Begin age 18
Number of pops 2
Spent money 6.000 €



Gerd Deutsch, age: 19 [+2] (ID 1812602)
[14 +7]brilliant junior +3 (14,84)
Average pop: 3,57
[10]excellent form

[6]adequate stamina [1]hopeless keeper
[2]unsatisfactory pace [6]adequate defender
[5]average technique [10]excellent playmaker
[8]solid passing [10]excellent striker

Sum of skills: [48] = [42] + [6] stamina

7 7 7 8 8 8 9 9 10 10 10 11 11 11 11 12 12 12 13 13 13 13 14 14 14 14

Trainers average skill [14]brilliant (14,3)

Weeks all 29 weeks
Exit date 2007-05-03
Begin skill level [7]good
Begin age 17
Number of pops 7
Spent money 29.000 €



Eckbert Dickgieser, age: 19 [+1] (ID 3767308)
[9 +5]very good junior +1 (9,25)
Average pop: 4,00
[9]very good form

[1]hopeless stamina [1]hopeless keeper
[8]solid pace [2]unsatisfactory defender
[4]weak technique [7]good playmaker
[5]average passing [1]hopeless striker

Sum of skills: [29] = [28] + [1] stamina

4 4 4 5 5 5 5 6 6 6 6 7 7 7 7 8 8 8 8 9 9

Trainers average skill [15]magical (15,0)

Weeks all 21 weeks
Exit date 2007-12-12
Begin skill level [4]weak
Begin age 18
Number of pops 5
Spent money 21.000 €




Siegfried Döring, age: 20 [+2] (ID 2754341)
[13 +7]incredible junior +1 (13,22)
Average pop: 4,50
[8]solid form

[3]poor stamina [2]unsatisfactory keeper
[3]poor pace [5]average defender
[9]very good technique [4]weak playmaker
[9]very good passing [9]very good striker

Sum of skills: [44] = [41] + [3] stamina

6 6 6 7 7 7 7 7 8 8 8 8 9 9 9 9 9 10 10 10 10 11 11 11 11 11 12 12 12 12 13 13

Trainers average skill [14]brilliant (14,7)

Weeks all 32 weeks
Exit date 2007-10-18
Begin skill level [6]adequate
Begin age 18
Number of pops 7
Spent money 32.000 €



Maik Lorenz Engert, age: 19 [+2] (ID 4404977)
[9 +3]very good junior (9,00)
Average pop: 7,00
[9]very good form

[0]tragic stamina [0]tragic keeper
[7]good pace [0]tragic defender
[7]good technique [3]poor playmaker
[1]hopeless passing [6]adequate striker

Sum of skills: [24] = [24] + [0] stamina

6 6 6 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 9


Trainers average skill [15]magical (15,0)

Weeks all 17 weeks
Exit date 2008-02-06
Begin skill level [6]adequate
Begin age 17
Number of pops 3
Spent money 18.000 €



Goswin Fall, age: 19 [+1] (ID 6543361)
[8 +3]solid junior +3 (8,67)
Average pop: 4,50
[9]very good form

[4]weak stamina [0]tragic keeper
[1]hopeless pace [0]tragic defender
[6]adequate technique [6]adequate playmaker
[2]unsatisfactory passing [5]average striker

Sum of skills: [24] = [20] + [4] stamina

5 5 6 6 6 6 7 7 7 7 7 8 8 8 8

Trainers average skill [16]unearthly (16,0)

Weeks all 15 weeks
Exit date 2008-10-16
Begin skill level [5]average
Begin age 18
Number of pops 3
Spent money 16.000 €




Dirk Feinbier, age: 18 [+2] (ID 2660772)
[10 +3]excellent junior +4 (10,73)
Average pop: 5,50
[9]very good form

[5]average stamina [0]tragic keeper
[5]average pace [7]good defender
[5]average technique [5]average playmaker
[0]tragic passing [6]adequate striker

Sum of skills: [33] = [28] + [5] stamina

7 7 7 7 7 7 7 8 8 8 8 8 9 9 9 9 9 9 10 10 10 10 10

Trainers average skill [14]brilliant (14,5)

Weeks all 22 weeks
Exit date 2007-07-26
Begin skill level [7]good
Begin age 16
Number of pops 3
Spent money 23.000 €

@koka: Vielen Dank, habe alle Spieler eingepflegt, die 100er Grenze wurde geknackt, es sind jetzt 104 Datensätze vorhanden.

@all: Bitte postet hier fleissig eure Spieler rein, gerne auch nur die die ihr aktuell zieht, soviel Arbeit jeden Donnerstag dürfte das nicht sein ;)

Die aktuelle Regression (bisher ohne Berücksichtigung von Kondi/TW) sieht wie folgt aus:

Skillsumme = -4,248 + 3,391 * Endskill

Irrtumwahrscheinlichkeit liegt bei 3% und wird mit weiteren Daten noch sinken.

gruß
Pat

Und was sagt uns diese Formel genau ?

Ab welcher Skillsumme lohnt denn ein Jugendspieler ....... ?
Oder geht es bei der Formel nur darum, Talente ungefähr zu bestimmen, wenn der Spieler nicht lange genug in der Schule war ?

zu Kondi. Ich bin überzeugt, dass Kondi "gut" gleich ist wie in anderen Skills "ausgezeichnet". Das heisst Kondi wäre effektiv mit 1.42 zu gewichten. Ich denke aber, dass Du ja mit diesem Datensatz durchaus selber schon berechnen kannst, ob das in etwa hinkommt oder nicht. Ich persönlich hätte 121 Jugis im Datensatz. Allerdings müsste ich die genaue Skillstufe, Jugendschul-Trainer etc noch berechnen und das ist mir jetzt noch zu mühsam (wenn auch möglich). :)

Ahja die Skillsumme ist natürlich kein gutes Mass. Die Stufe von sehr gut auf excellent dürfte mehr "Skillpunkte" kosten, als die Stufe von tragisch auf hoffnungslos. Das sage ich nur, um zu zeigen, dass es eben leider nie ganz einfach ist, solche Analysen durchzuführen. Dennoch natürlich ein guter und mutiger Ansatz!
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