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Mikä näistä uudistuksista tuo pelillistä etua plussalaisille?
Ymmärrän ehkä mitä tällä haetaan. Plussalaisilla on suuri etu jos vain toinen vastustajan käyttämistä taktiikoista näkyy ottelun jälkeisessä raportissa, sillä plussattoman on jo muutenkin vaikeahkoa skoutata vastustajaa. Tämä siitä syystä, että plussaton ei pysty vastustajan ottelua katsomaan.
Henkilökohtaisesti pidän uudistuksesta erittäin paljon, ja juuri samanlainen idea on ollut omassa päässä jo pitkään ennen uudistusten julkistamista. Taitaa gregillä olla hallussaan jonkunmoinen ajatustenlukukone? :D
Tämä kahden taktiikan idea julkaistiin jo neljän vuoden takaisessa uutisessa:
"Tekijä: Archie_B [del]
2008-01-08 18:12:14 Pelimoottori testissä maajoukkuepeleissä
Maajoukkueiden ystävyysotteluiden yhteydessä 12.1.2008 testaamme eräitä muutoksia pelimoottorin sisäiseen tapaan koodata pelitilanteita. Mikäli kaikki menee suunnitelmien mukaan, tämän ei pitäisi näkyä mitenkään loppukäyttäjille. Muutokset ovat tarpeen, koska uusi koodaustapa mahdollistaa pelimoottorin edelleenkehittämisen tulevaisuudessa mm. seuraavasti:
- kahden pelitaktiikan asettaminen, joita voidaan vaihtaa pelin aikana ehdollisesti
- täsmällinen pelaajan asettaminen taktiikassa (ts. pelaajaa ei ole pakko asettaa tiettyyn editorin segmenttiin)
- maalivahdin taktiikat (joissa voidaan päättää tuleeko maalivahti ulos maalista kulmapotkutilanteessa)"
Kahta jälkimmäistä ei ole vielä toteutettu.
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Tämä kahden taktiikan idea julkaistiin jo neljän vuoden takaisessa uutisessa:
"Tekijä: Archie_B [del]
2008-01-08 18:12:14 Pelimoottori testissä maajoukkuepeleissä
Maajoukkueiden ystävyysotteluiden yhteydessä 12.1.2008 testaamme eräitä muutoksia pelimoottorin sisäiseen tapaan koodata pelitilanteita. Mikäli kaikki menee suunnitelmien mukaan, tämän ei pitäisi näkyä mitenkään loppukäyttäjille. Muutokset ovat tarpeen, koska uusi koodaustapa mahdollistaa pelimoottorin edelleenkehittämisen tulevaisuudessa mm. seuraavasti:
- kahden pelitaktiikan asettaminen, joita voidaan vaihtaa pelin aikana ehdollisesti
- täsmällinen pelaajan asettaminen taktiikassa (ts. pelaajaa ei ole pakko asettaa tiettyyn editorin segmenttiin)
- maalivahdin taktiikat (joissa voidaan päättää tuleeko maalivahti ulos maalista kulmapotkutilanteessa)"
Kahta jälkimmäistä ei ole vielä toteutettu.
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Oho, näköjään. Taitaa greg sittenkin omistaa aikamatkustus-ajatustenlukukoneen, kun neljän vuoden päähän on tullut aivojani tutkimaan. :D
Mielenkiintoista löytää tämä huonoksi, kun itse en ole löytänyt ainuttakaan parempaa =)
Kun omia tuloja vertailee p*skapalkkasena niin 20e/vuosi on hyvin pieni menoerä loppujen lopuksi. Nythän tuo plussan hinta on hieman noussut, mutta eniweis. Jos oikeasti on kiinnostunut pelistä ja tahtoo tähän hieman lisäsisältöä niin ei tuo mikään paha summa ole. :) Turha tuosta on mielestäni purnata, jokaisen pelin kehittämiseen menee kuluja. Jos jostain pitää purnata niin voi ottaa esille aiheet suomen rangaistuspolitiikkan sekä Antti Tuiskun
Huom Huom!! kaikkien kannattaa käydä tarkistamassa omat tilannekohtaiset määräyksensä! Minulla ainakin oli näämä sekoitettu taktiikan vaihtoihin nuo pelaaja muutokset tai jotain, kannattaa kuitenkin käydä tarkistamassa ;)
We are proud to announce matches 3d viewer. It has been developed in Adobe Flash and uses new 3d functionality implemented in Adobe Flash Player 11.
Thanks to it matches get new look, and we get new possibilities, like viewing matches from different cameras, modifying shirt types (plus users get it in match kits menu), viewing player faces and hair styles (future), displaying while viewing match stadium standings and supporters that came to match, modifying mod of grass, modify pitch size (all you get it in arena menu) and many more in future now easier to implement.
Notice that 3d appeared in flash quite recently, and may not work depending on hardware type, for example 3d engine that we used for match viewer is still in beta release. Also 3d engine may not work correctly on Opera, but this is quite common that things don`t work on Opera. When something doesn't work good or look weird, don't assume that is how was planned and has to be (after nobody reported aricles disapeared from first page we can expect everything;), but report bug on forum Bugs / Ideas (en), with your browser type, graphics card, and printscreen of problem.
We have still left current 2d version, it may work better on slower computers or smartphones. We have modified 2d viewer to display pitch lines dynamically, previosly that was static lines image, to manage with different pitch sizes. In 2d viewer stadium views, supporters, pitch mow, or shirt types won't be supported.
Arena and pitch
Now at the arena menu you can change mow type of grass on your stadium or put your team logo on field (plus users only), that will be visible while viewing match on your stadium.
Plus users are also able to place their team logo with selected postion and size.
You can also modify pitch size, that maybe will work better with your tactics. Pitch size modification costs depends on grass type (see below).
Additionally new feature is grass type and condition. Grass condition is weaker after every match and needs time to recover, how quick depends on weather, it grows best when it is not too sunny and not too wet. You can quicker recover grass spending money on pitch maintenance. Other possibility of pitch recovery is lay new grass of selected type, type of grass means what level of condition grass maximally can reach, for example garden grass for home lawn type, won't reach much more than 50% of condition (so will be good just)
On pitch in weak condition ball may bound in little unpredictable direction on unevennesses, also may unintentionally jump in direction player didn't wanted while drybling. Also probablity of injury is higher on weak pitch condition and lower on good or better pitch condition (better than 50%).
Match engine
Match engine has been modified to support 3d viewer features, such as shirt types, standings and supporter numbers, pitch sizes and types, logos, etc.
Other modifications in match engine are:
- added keeper animations, standing with hands wide and run
- ball bounds unpredictable on weak condition pitch, and while dribbling, how often depends on pitch condition
- players speed is decreased by 5%, in 3d it looks more natural
- probablity of injury is higher on weak pitch condition and lower on good or better pitch condition (better than 50%)
- more short passes (that probably will need regulations further)
- on freekicks and corner kicks players will pass little more adequate
- modification of defending, now it is easier to drible over player from front
- players more often change direction during dribbling to minimize possibility stealing ball by opponent
- fixed bug of lounch and run goal scorer and lounch and run offside
- increased height influence on speeding up and fatigue
- player weight added (see below)
- tactics scalling change, tactics are more scalled over pitch to be able to set defenders lower in some ball positions or attackers higher
- rebuilded algorithm of supporters attendance depending on stand type and ticket price, supporters will more often choose cheaper stands of same or better type
- added injury while drybbling, but, in exchange, lowered probability of other
- fixed bug changing second tactics when wasn't set
- fixed but setting players on the same position on conditional orders
- covering players introduced (DEF will be able to modify its position a little when see there is attacker close to him uncovered), how defenders cover will be later explained in news and rules
Player weight
We have added player weight, both player weight and height will be visible in 3d match viewer, player will be more or less bolder or higher.
Too slim player players will speed up slowers, as they have less muscles, also too have will speed up slower, as... they are heavy. Heavy players will get tired more quickly, slim will get tired slower.
Weight is calculated using bmi index, depending on height, where
bmi=weight/(height*height)
ideal bmi for Sokker player is set to 23.75.
Weight will change depending on training, matches played, or injury, but it isn't implemented yet.
Thanks to it matches get new look, and we get new possibilities, like viewing matches from different cameras, modifying shirt types (plus users get it in match kits menu), viewing player faces and hair styles (future), displaying while viewing match stadium standings and supporters that came to match, modifying mod of grass, modify pitch size (all you get it in arena menu) and many more in future now easier to implement.
Notice that 3d appeared in flash quite recently, and may not work depending on hardware type, for example 3d engine that we used for match viewer is still in beta release. Also 3d engine may not work correctly on Opera, but this is quite common that things don`t work on Opera. When something doesn't work good or look weird, don't assume that is how was planned and has to be (after nobody reported aricles disapeared from first page we can expect everything;), but report bug on forum Bugs / Ideas (en), with your browser type, graphics card, and printscreen of problem.
We have still left current 2d version, it may work better on slower computers or smartphones. We have modified 2d viewer to display pitch lines dynamically, previosly that was static lines image, to manage with different pitch sizes. In 2d viewer stadium views, supporters, pitch mow, or shirt types won't be supported.
Arena and pitch
Now at the arena menu you can change mow type of grass on your stadium or put your team logo on field (plus users only), that will be visible while viewing match on your stadium.
Plus users are also able to place their team logo with selected postion and size.
You can also modify pitch size, that maybe will work better with your tactics. Pitch size modification costs depends on grass type (see below).
Additionally new feature is grass type and condition. Grass condition is weaker after every match and needs time to recover, how quick depends on weather, it grows best when it is not too sunny and not too wet. You can quicker recover grass spending money on pitch maintenance. Other possibility of pitch recovery is lay new grass of selected type, type of grass means what level of condition grass maximally can reach, for example garden grass for home lawn type, won't reach much more than 50% of condition (so will be good just)
On pitch in weak condition ball may bound in little unpredictable direction on unevennesses, also may unintentionally jump in direction player didn't wanted while drybling. Also probablity of injury is higher on weak pitch condition and lower on good or better pitch condition (better than 50%).
Match engine
Match engine has been modified to support 3d viewer features, such as shirt types, standings and supporter numbers, pitch sizes and types, logos, etc.
Other modifications in match engine are:
- added keeper animations, standing with hands wide and run
- ball bounds unpredictable on weak condition pitch, and while dribbling, how often depends on pitch condition
- players speed is decreased by 5%, in 3d it looks more natural
- probablity of injury is higher on weak pitch condition and lower on good or better pitch condition (better than 50%)
- more short passes (that probably will need regulations further)
- on freekicks and corner kicks players will pass little more adequate
- modification of defending, now it is easier to drible over player from front
- players more often change direction during dribbling to minimize possibility stealing ball by opponent
- fixed bug of lounch and run goal scorer and lounch and run offside
- increased height influence on speeding up and fatigue
- player weight added (see below)
- tactics scalling change, tactics are more scalled over pitch to be able to set defenders lower in some ball positions or attackers higher
- rebuilded algorithm of supporters attendance depending on stand type and ticket price, supporters will more often choose cheaper stands of same or better type
- added injury while drybbling, but, in exchange, lowered probability of other
- fixed bug changing second tactics when wasn't set
- fixed but setting players on the same position on conditional orders
- covering players introduced (DEF will be able to modify its position a little when see there is attacker close to him uncovered), how defenders cover will be later explained in news and rules
Player weight
We have added player weight, both player weight and height will be visible in 3d match viewer, player will be more or less bolder or higher.
Too slim player players will speed up slowers, as they have less muscles, also too have will speed up slower, as... they are heavy. Heavy players will get tired more quickly, slim will get tired slower.
Weight is calculated using bmi index, depending on height, where
bmi=weight/(height*height)
ideal bmi for Sokker player is set to 23.75.
Weight will change depending on training, matches played, or injury, but it isn't implemented yet.
On pitch in weak condition ball may bound in little unpredictable direction on unevennesses, also may unintentionally jump in direction player didn't wanted while drybling.
Tämä uudistus näkyi eilisessä Champions Cupin pelissä. Ecuadorilaisella perunapellolla pallo pomppi välillä aika erikoisesti. Ei kuitenkaan onneksi merkittävästi vaikuttanut peliin.
Tämä uudistus näkyi eilisessä Champions Cupin pelissä. Ecuadorilaisella perunapellolla pallo pomppi välillä aika erikoisesti. Ei kuitenkaan onneksi merkittävästi vaikuttanut peliin.
Pelaajien paino (läskiys) ei ilmeisesti ole vielä aktivoitu... en ainakaan löydä mitään BMI juttuja.
Tuo loukkaantumisherkkyys huonolla kentällä ei hirveästi hurraahuutoja aiheuta. Cupin avauskierrokset pelataan bottien/aladivarilaisten kotikentällä.. lisäksi kaikkien maajoukkueiden kentät näyttävät olevan paskinta mahdollista nurmikkoa. Voin vain kuvitella sen valituksen määrän kun maajoukkuepelaajia alkaa lakoamaan kuin kärpäsiä.
Maajoukkueille on tosiaan tulleet nyt stadionit, mutta niitä ei pääse mitenkään säätämään. En pääse vaikuttamaan U21-valkkuna mitenkään Suomen U21-stadioniin. Maaottelut pitäisi ehdottomasti pelata parhaalla mahdollisella alustalla, ei niitä oikeastikaan pelata perunapellolla kuin ehkä Suomessa.
Näin on.... perskuta kun tuleva koutsi saa tietenkin kaikki syyt niskoillensa :/