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I do not know if you also received the message. Therefore I post here, because it is about big changes in Sokker!
Source: https://sokker.org/forum_topic/ID_forum/63355/ID_topic/3438693/pg/1
Dev Diary 60: Gameplay Reform – it is happening!
Let me start by sharing a few personal thoughts with you. There are news that you write because you have to, and there are also news when you enjoy typing every single letter, the announcement of which is the culmination of many months of hard work. The announced effect is the beginning of something long-awaited, and the changes introduced are not only technical maintenance of the game but its significant development. Therefore, with great satisfaction, on behalf of the entire Sokker Team, I announce that the start of the new season will be preceded by the long-awaited reform of the tournament structure! ~Raul
THE MOST IMPORTANT CHANGES:
- Extending the composition of each league - from the current 8 to 12 teams.
- Changing the calendar of competitions. The season will be reduced to 13 weeks in which matches will be played according to the scheme: league matches on Wednesdays and Sundays, cup / friendly matches on Fridays. Each team will play 22 league matches in a season instead of 14.
- Change of promotion rules. Most importantly, from the next season, league winners will always be promoted directly. On the other hand, teams in 2nd place will have their chance in play-offs. Places 3-6 will be safe, teams ranked 10-12 will demote directly, and those ranked 7-9 will have to defend their league presence in play-offs. We hope that this will affect the fierceness and attractiveness of the competition and each team will be committed to fighting for its goal throughout the season. Link to the new tournament calendar
NECESSARY ADJUSTMENTS:
- The new system assumptions are that each lower league level has 3 times more teams than the preceding higher one, and therefore: 1 x 1st league, 3 x 2nd leagues, 9 x 3rd leagues, 27 x 4th leagues, etc. This change makes the possible introduction of new promotion and relegation system, but also makes each level more exclusive and prestigious.
- The effect of the reform will be a change in the total number of teams at each league level. While the I and II levels of the game will increase their numbers, starting from the third league number of teams will be reduced. This is exactly illustrated by this table.
- The above changes require new assignments to individual leagues. At the beginning of next season, old leagues will be reset and ALL teams will be assigned to the new leagues based on their performance this season, creating a completely new composition of each league. We describe the rules of attribution in detail below.
RULES OF ASSIGNMENT TO NEW LEAGUES:
1. We play play-offs, promotions, and relegations, as usual, at the end of the season.
2. We keep the score (points, goals) with which a given team was relegated or promoted.
3. We delete teams without players (e.g. in PL there are nearly 400 teams).
4. We sort the teams according to the collective tables of a given level of the game, assuming that:
- First, we sort the teams that fell from a higher league level (direct relegations from higher leagues, and play-off losers from higher leagues)
- Then the teams that stayed at the given level (play-off losers from the league level in question, and safe places 2-4)
- At the end, we sort the teams that have advanced to a given level (direct promotions from lower leagues, and play-off winners from lower leagues)
5. We remove all bot teams from the rankings. We adopt one rule: no login in the last 50 days. These teams will not be completely removed and if the owner returns someday, he will be able to resume the game with his own team, with his own resources, but from the lowest league level.
6. The tables created in this way will be the basis for assignment to new leagues.
NECESSARY BUT UNPOPULAR EFFECTS:
- As described above, the number of middle and lower levels of the game will decrease.
- The consequences of the change in the number of teams at a certain level will be situations in which:
a) teams that, according to the old system, would be promoted to a higher level, will remain at the current level.
b) teams that, according to the old system, would remain at the current level, will be assigned to a lower league.
- It is math, and a necessary, one-time adjustment.
- We hope that the increased possibility of promotion from next season and the greater attractiveness of the tournament will be compensation for the owners of these teams.
- Despite many hours devoted to searching for solutions, in order to introduce changes, it was not possible to find a better solution. It is a necessary, but probably unpopular, effect.
THE EFFECT OF CHANGE ON TRAINING:
- Awaited by you, training reform will not start until the next season, so the next season will be a transitional period. New rules of the game, but still the old rules of training.
- Consequently, thanks to 3 "training" matches every week, it will be possible to train more players: e.g. 3 players with GK, 9 ATT, 15 MID or DEF, and as many as 33 players training pace.
- It is also a small gift for you for your patience - use it for the season, in the next season there will be new rules.
- Shortening the season will reduce the number of training from 16 to 13 possible so far. Remember this when planning the careers of your pupils.
In final words, we hope the competition next season will be as fierce as the discussion under this post! Good luck to all of you! ~Raul
Published on February 14, 2022
I do not know if you also received the message. Therefore I post here, because it is about big changes in Sokker!
Source: https://sokker.org/forum_topic/ID_forum/63355/ID_topic/3438693/pg/1
Dev Diary 60: Gameplay Reform – it is happening!
Let me start by sharing a few personal thoughts with you. There are news that you write because you have to, and there are also news when you enjoy typing every single letter, the announcement of which is the culmination of many months of hard work. The announced effect is the beginning of something long-awaited, and the changes introduced are not only technical maintenance of the game but its significant development. Therefore, with great satisfaction, on behalf of the entire Sokker Team, I announce that the start of the new season will be preceded by the long-awaited reform of the tournament structure! ~Raul
THE MOST IMPORTANT CHANGES:
- Extending the composition of each league - from the current 8 to 12 teams.
- Changing the calendar of competitions. The season will be reduced to 13 weeks in which matches will be played according to the scheme: league matches on Wednesdays and Sundays, cup / friendly matches on Fridays. Each team will play 22 league matches in a season instead of 14.
- Change of promotion rules. Most importantly, from the next season, league winners will always be promoted directly. On the other hand, teams in 2nd place will have their chance in play-offs. Places 3-6 will be safe, teams ranked 10-12 will demote directly, and those ranked 7-9 will have to defend their league presence in play-offs. We hope that this will affect the fierceness and attractiveness of the competition and each team will be committed to fighting for its goal throughout the season. Link to the new tournament calendar
NECESSARY ADJUSTMENTS:
- The new system assumptions are that each lower league level has 3 times more teams than the preceding higher one, and therefore: 1 x 1st league, 3 x 2nd leagues, 9 x 3rd leagues, 27 x 4th leagues, etc. This change makes the possible introduction of new promotion and relegation system, but also makes each level more exclusive and prestigious.
- The effect of the reform will be a change in the total number of teams at each league level. While the I and II levels of the game will increase their numbers, starting from the third league number of teams will be reduced. This is exactly illustrated by this table.
- The above changes require new assignments to individual leagues. At the beginning of next season, old leagues will be reset and ALL teams will be assigned to the new leagues based on their performance this season, creating a completely new composition of each league. We describe the rules of attribution in detail below.
RULES OF ASSIGNMENT TO NEW LEAGUES:
1. We play play-offs, promotions, and relegations, as usual, at the end of the season.
2. We keep the score (points, goals) with which a given team was relegated or promoted.
3. We delete teams without players (e.g. in PL there are nearly 400 teams).
4. We sort the teams according to the collective tables of a given level of the game, assuming that:
- First, we sort the teams that fell from a higher league level (direct relegations from higher leagues, and play-off losers from higher leagues)
- Then the teams that stayed at the given level (play-off losers from the league level in question, and safe places 2-4)
- At the end, we sort the teams that have advanced to a given level (direct promotions from lower leagues, and play-off winners from lower leagues)
5. We remove all bot teams from the rankings. We adopt one rule: no login in the last 50 days. These teams will not be completely removed and if the owner returns someday, he will be able to resume the game with his own team, with his own resources, but from the lowest league level.
6. The tables created in this way will be the basis for assignment to new leagues.
NECESSARY BUT UNPOPULAR EFFECTS:
- As described above, the number of middle and lower levels of the game will decrease.
- The consequences of the change in the number of teams at a certain level will be situations in which:
a) teams that, according to the old system, would be promoted to a higher level, will remain at the current level.
b) teams that, according to the old system, would remain at the current level, will be assigned to a lower league.
- It is math, and a necessary, one-time adjustment.
- We hope that the increased possibility of promotion from next season and the greater attractiveness of the tournament will be compensation for the owners of these teams.
- Despite many hours devoted to searching for solutions, in order to introduce changes, it was not possible to find a better solution. It is a necessary, but probably unpopular, effect.
THE EFFECT OF CHANGE ON TRAINING:
- Awaited by you, training reform will not start until the next season, so the next season will be a transitional period. New rules of the game, but still the old rules of training.
- Consequently, thanks to 3 "training" matches every week, it will be possible to train more players: e.g. 3 players with GK, 9 ATT, 15 MID or DEF, and as many as 33 players training pace.
- It is also a small gift for you for your patience - use it for the season, in the next season there will be new rules.
- Shortening the season will reduce the number of training from 16 to 13 possible so far. Remember this when planning the careers of your pupils.
In final words, we hope the competition next season will be as fierce as the discussion under this post! Good luck to all of you! ~Raul
Published on February 14, 2022
dev Raul:
Yes, the news about the training will be available soon - we are finishing the tests, the training in the new season will be based on the new rules, but we will confirm whether there will be a slight delay in the implementation (a week, max two)
As you can see it is happening we are waiting patiently :)
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Yes, the news about the training will be available soon - we are finishing the tests, the training in the new season will be based on the new rules, but we will confirm whether there will be a slight delay in the implementation (a week, max two)
As you can see it is happening we are waiting patiently :)
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sorry for lack of communication last month, we still keep our work on training reform.
Its almost completed, we are in test phase right now - we need mailny some fixed in new training page interface and few more tests to make sure that new rules dont generate to many top (multidevine) players - hopefully we will be ready soon - but we also know, that some previous changes faced problems during introduction into real game, so we rather want to be cautios with final declarations - for now i can give you our internal limit - we asume that training reform will be introduced with a small delay (max 2-3 weeks) - so for now you will get few extra trainings. More precise date will be set soon i hope - but tests are crucial here for clarification.
What I can say now, new system looks quite cool at test server, it's really flexible and allow to plan development of different player profiles/formations, so it could be a lot of fun in compare to current rules.
We decided to keep training rules as simple as it can be, so all info from news number 63 is valid. We decided to resign from any extra bonuses like bonus vs stronger opponents (it was one of ideas when training reform was claimed first time). So to understand major rules - please just take a look to last news (63)
sorry for lack of communication last month, we still keep our work on training reform.
Its almost completed, we are in test phase right now - we need mailny some fixed in new training page interface and few more tests to make sure that new rules dont generate to many top (multidevine) players - hopefully we will be ready soon - but we also know, that some previous changes faced problems during introduction into real game, so we rather want to be cautios with final declarations - for now i can give you our internal limit - we asume that training reform will be introduced with a small delay (max 2-3 weeks) - so for now you will get few extra trainings. More precise date will be set soon i hope - but tests are crucial here for clarification.
What I can say now, new system looks quite cool at test server, it's really flexible and allow to plan development of different player profiles/formations, so it could be a lot of fun in compare to current rules.
We decided to keep training rules as simple as it can be, so all info from news number 63 is valid. We decided to resign from any extra bonuses like bonus vs stronger opponents (it was one of ideas when training reform was claimed first time). So to understand major rules - please just take a look to last news (63)
We are currently witnessing the absence of the first round of junior league play.
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