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Subject: Nybegjynner hjelp

2005-06-10 12:09:23
Hei jeg er helt ny i dette spillet og manager for Dir FK. Mine erfaringer med slike spill er Hattrick og Freekick.
Det jeg lurer på er om noen kan gi meg noen nybegynner tips slik at en kommer igang og ikke blåser alle pengene bort i starten. (slik jeg gjorde i går i søken etter trenere hehe)
Hvis dere i tillegg har msn hadde det vært fint så kan vi prates om spillet...

Men hva er det viktigste å gjøre i starten?
Finnes det noen hjelpe verktøy slik som buddy og ham i hattrick?
Hvordan bør en jobbe men juniorene?
Hva har taktikk å si i spillet ?
Hvordan bør en trene?

skjønner der hvor jeg vil henne=? hehe
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2005-06-10 12:15:27
Jeg er selv nesten helt ny i spillet, men p? Sokker International finner du en veldig god newbie guide. :)
2005-06-10 12:39:54
Vel.. Når det gjelder trening er ikke dette like firkantet i sokker som i hattrick.. Ferdigheten henger i større grad sammen med hverandre, og gode spillere må ha gode ferdigheter i mer enn en ting..

På junioravdelingen gjelder det å ha en trener med så god general coach skill som mulig.. Du bør også innen hver lørdag sette antall ledige plasser i juniorskolen til 6 mer enn du har i juniorskolen fra før.. Hvem du tar vare på er opp til deg, men jeg vil nevne at den skjulte ferdigheten med talent er veldig varierende, og det trenger ikke alltid væra lurt å sparke weak'e juniorer som har en lang fremtid på juniorlaget.

Taktikkeri har jeg forøvrig aldra satt meg helt inn i, det er foreløpig litt diffust på dette området på andre forumer også..

Det du må passe på i starten er helt klart økonomien.. Selv har jeg kun et minimum av spillere, med bare èn innbytter i hver posisjon.. Budsjettet er stramt, og jeg har rett og slett ikke råd til mere, da det hver uke går 150000-200000 kroner til juniorskolen og 260000 til lønninger.

Det er her treningen kommer inn.. Jeg startet selv med forsvarstrening og har solg unna en spiller for en god slant, for så å ta vare på de andre.. Jeg gikk over til keeper trening da jeg trakk opp en very good keeper fra junioravdelinga, som jeg forøvrig også antakeligvis kunne fått en god slant penger for.. Finn deg en ting du vil trene, gjerne i den posisjonen der du har flest unge spillere, så går det nok bra.

Ja, det finnes hjelpeprogrammer.. Har selv et som heter SAM, Sokker Assistant Manager, uten at jeg har brukt det mer enn et par ganger så jeg har ikke så mye erfaring med dette... Kan lete det frem på forumet om du er interessert.
2005-06-10 15:47:28
ja har du linken til dette programmet?
2005-06-10 21:45:25
http://www.tobson.rudnet.pl/sam/

Er vel også noe som heter SokkerMon

- http://www.kovnet.co.yu/korisnici/filjo/sokkermon311.zip

En hjelpeside kan du finne på http://www.freewebs.com/sokkerhelp/
2005-06-12 17:12:32
Jeg har forsøkt å få til sokkermon, har også fått tilsendt serial file.. men det virker ikke. noen som kan hjelpe?
2005-10-24 19:32:03
De SAM'ene jeg laster ned er bare polske :(
Jeg har et sokkerspreadsheet lasta ned, men den er vanskelig å bruke til å holde oversikten.
Venter på serial til sokkermon også.

Hvis noen har en engelsk sam, send meg en internmail, så får vi kanskje ordna en overførsel.
2005-10-24 19:37:13
I'd recommend www.sokkerhelp.org

There are some translations of Polish manuals, that originally were translated here

Especially read this one


SAM actually doesnt show anything :]
The same goes with "stars" of the player in the game.

For example: midfielder with extremely high playmaking and passing, but without defending and technique would get pretty good marks there, but considering the fact that he won't be able to take the ball from any opponent, nor dribble him, he would actually be completely useless for your team ;)
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2005-10-28 23:58:21
The article from Sokkerhelp website - with all help for Newbies.


Wondering what to do with your new team? Here are 11 important things to remember to start a succesful franchise!

1. Click on the cone, and set your training regime to “Stamina”. It’ll give your team a nice boost, and give you a couple of weeks to decide what to train.

2. Click on the player icon and get to know your squad – and be willing to kill a few players. You will have a few naff players to start. Any player with no skills better than average is extremely likely to be naff. Any player with solid or very good skills is a dude!

3. Look through your squad and decide what to train. Trainable players are aged 16 to 23. Under 20 is best. A good start is to pick the skill that you have the most young players playing at. At the moment all skills seem worth training. Especially Defending, Pace, Technique, Striker, Keeper.

4. You need a Head Coach.
All trainers that were given to you probably suck and are not worth keeping not even for a while. [Julius]
Click on the cone and then “Coach Recruitment”. BE CAREFUL HERE. Coach recruitment is partially based on luck and can suck away a lot of cash… You want a Head Coach who has a strong skill (look for the one with an unearthly skill, or at least magical- [Julius]) at JUST THE SKILL YOU WANT TO TRAIN, and as weak as possible at the rest. You should be able to get one for a weekly wage of less that 66.666kr (£ 5000). The cheaper the better. As a suggestion, choose unearthly for the statistic you want, and unsatisfactory for the others. You will then get given a coach. If you like him accept him. If not decline him. IF YOU DO NOT DECLINE COACHES, THEY REMAIN ON YOUR WAGES….

5. You also need to hire a YOUTH COACH and ASSISTANT COACH.
I think it's better to have only the head coach on the start, even at the cost of having no assistants. If you have less than 4 youths to train (after the algorithm) and lack some money, wait with recruiting the junior coach.[Julius]
Here, you just need to look at the average ranking. To start with a coach with an average of adequate to solid will be fine. One way of getting this is to mainly choose “good” on the coach selection skill. Again, look for as low wages as possible. Less than £2000….
Assistants are actually only for general training, to help the main coach. As none of newbies can afford a head coach with all unearthly skills, assistants are actually redundant to you. The more important thing is specific training you set every week, which relies ONLY on the specific skill of the head coach.[Julius]


6. You need to set up your youth team spaces. Click on the telephone and then “Juniors”. You get between 1 and 6 youths a week, but only if your school is big enough to cope. If you have 5 youths, but only 6 spaces, then you will only be able to get a maximum of 1 new youth. Spaces cost £600 per week, FULL OR EMPTY, so be careful here. Start with 6 spaces and increase it as you need to.

7. You need to decide on your first team. Click on the Match icon (a football pitch) and go to the next match where you need to set “Match Orders”. You have a lot of room to experiment here. Basically choose a keeper with best keeper skill, defenders with defender, but also pace, technique, passing are useful, midfielders tend to be all rounders, and strikers….yes you’ve guessed it! You also can get to set and edit tactics here – via the football pitch. This is not hattrick, so don’t automatically choose 3-5-2 !!. (For more detailed tactic editing, click on the cone, then the word “Tactics”)

8. Book a friendly (if not in the cup!). Click on the phone and then select friendlies. You can advertise, or search around other players and ask them to join. Try asking on the conference too. This is a bit of a pain in the ass on sokker. Best way is to join a friendly league, which can pre-book up to about 10 games ahead (depending on time of the season).
Cup friendly match gives more money actually [Julius]

9. DO NOT delve into the transfer market yet. Money, especially in the early days in very tight in sokker. Using the transfer market is a sure fire way to go bust!

10. Keep visiting the forums – there are many useful hints and tips there.

11. Don't upgrade your stadium too early. You ideally need at least 300 fans before you should even consider upgrading.
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2005-11-09 22:01:27
Mentoring Norway :)

I've just come across a very interesting thread on Sokker England - about "how to help the new users".

In Italy there was the idea of creating something like a tutor organisation - some experienced players showing newbies how and what, also answering to their questions.

You can read it here


Just wonder if something like that may be introduced to Norge ;)
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2005-11-09 22:40:10
I would be happy to help out. I think it's a grand idea. If we get enough managers to sign up for mentoring this coul'd really be worth doing!
2005-11-09 22:52:24
I can also help - but.... Jeg forstår ikke Norsk :(

It's easier to tell sb in his own language than make double translations (Polish-English-Norsk).


There are 169 teams in Norge, only 62 are occupied at the moment.
Teams in Norway have IDs form 7218 to 7385

Getting to any of them is possible by writing url: http://62.233.129.98/sokker/glowna.php?teamID= and the number of the ID.

The last person that has joined to SK got : this ID: 7300.

So the next potential candidates to be welcomed start with 7301.


Edit: just a couple of seconds ago team with ID: 7301 got the user.....
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2005-11-09 23:15:42
Most norwegians understand english very well so I don't think that will be a problem.

I think the first thing that needs to be done is to find out how many managers we have in Norway that are willing to become mentors. There does not seem to be a lot of active Norwegian managers and we should know if we are enough to do the job properly.

And after that we should start a new thread were the new managers could sign up to get mentors.

But perhaps there is some easier way to go about it?

Would be nice to have more active managers in my league.
2005-11-09 23:50:59
the last new team was 7302.
2006-10-24 09:11:45
bump
2006-10-25 21:41:10
Et punkt du ikke nevner er økonomi. Jeg vil av mange årsaker som du finner du ut av på foruene om du leser rundt, understreke viktigheten av å ikke bruke for mye penger i starten. Med økonomiske spørsmål er det bare å ta kontakt.