Subject: U21 VM

Norge har blitt invitert til å ta del i U21 VM. Dette er frivillig og helt opp til den enkelte nasjon om den ønsker å være med eller ikke.

Ca 40 nasjoner har meldt seg på så langt. Og de alle toppnasjonene utenom polen er meldt på. Det vil bli lagt opp på en lignende måte til VM, men vil bli noe kortere enn normal.

Så mitt spørsmål til det norske sokkersamfunnet er om dere synes dette er noe vi børe være med på.

Jeg er i utgangspunktet positiv til dette. Mest for at vi da får litt ekstra fokus på de kommende spillerene, men også for den ekstra morro vi får utover det vanlige VM.

Men det er noen minuser da. Hadde det blitt foreslått et u19 VM ville jeg avslått uten å spørre dere, fordi norge ikke har nok gode spillere til å kunne delta skikkelig.

Nivået på det norske U21 laget er betydelig bedre. Men det er grunn til å tro at sokker nasjonene som ligger lavere enn oss men med flere managerer har et bedre grunnlag enn norge i denne sammenhengen. Så en mulig konsekvens kan være at vi taper noen flere kamper enn vi ellers ville ha gjodt. Sier ikke at det er garantert, men vil påpeke at dette kan bli en mulig konsekvens.

For de av dere som vil finne ut mer kan dere søke etter "U21 World cup" i forum.

joda, vi kan være med på dette. får vi forsåvidt se hvordan norge ligger i forhold til de andre najsonene i fremtiden

Ja, jeg er absolutt for dette :)

Som innehvaer av norges nå nest yngste lag stiller jeg meg positiv til et slikt arrangement.

Jeg er positiv til alt og da selvsagt også U21 VM.

Såfremt du tar med minst en av mine spillere da.
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Synes det høres flott ut. Klart vi bør være med.

Jeg er veldig positiv til dette. Det å gi tenåringene som er talentfulle landskamper gir motivasjon til alle trenerne som som har gode prospekter.

Peis på..

synes vi bør være med på det

Har dere tenkt på hvilke krav til skills som skal være på U20-guttene? Jeg tror ikke jeg har noen aktuelle men...

Jeg mener at Norge kunne vært med!

En liten oppdatering.

Siden vi gikk videre i VM har vi som en konsekvens automatisk greid kvalifiseringen i U21. En årsak til at det er slik er for å bli ferdig før sesongslutt, og da må de som fortsatt er med i VM kvalifiseres automatisk.

Her er en kopi fra U21 tråden:

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These teams will participate at the U21 World Cup:
Countries that have to play qualifications: (20)
Deutschland
Canada
Suomi
Brasil
Portugal
Magyarország
Perú
Colombia
Mexico
South Africa
Österreich
Slovenija
Schweiz
Bulgaria
Bosna i Hercegovina
Uruguay
Türkiye
Ísland
Hellas
Nigeria

Countries directly qualified for the Group stage: (18)

For being in the Eight-Final of the World Cup: (15)
Italia
Nederland
Hrvatska
Scotland
Lietuva
España
England
België
USA
Norge
Eesti
Slovensko
Romania
France
New Zealand

Highest ranked countries that get Wild Card: (3)
Danmark
Česká republika
Argentina

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WEEK 7 (2007-01-06)
World Cup – Eight-Finals
U21 World Cup – Qualifications

WEEK 8 (2007-01-13)
World Cup – Quarter-Finals
U21 World Cup – Qualifications

WEEK 9 (2007-01-20)
World Cup – Semi-Finals
U21 World Cup – Qualifications

WEEK 10 (2007-01-27)
World Cup – Final

WEEK 11 (2007-02-03)
U21 World Cup – Group stage (32 teams)

WEEK 12 (2007-02-10)
U21 World Cup – Group stage (32 teams)

WEEK 13 (2007-02-17)
U21 World Cup – Group stage (32 teams)

WEEK 14 (2007-02-24)
U21 World Cup – Eight-Finals (16 teams)

WEEK 15 (2007-03-03)
U21 World Cup – Quarter-Finals (8 teams)

WEEK 0 (2007-03-10)
U21 World Cup – Semi-Finals (4 teams)

WEEK 1 (2007-03-17)
U21 World Cup – Final (2 teams)

WEEK 2 (2007-03-24)
New NT season
Qualifications new senior World Cup


Extra information
Qualifications will be organised as 5 groups of 4 teams, so it will be played in the following 3 weeks. Top 2 teams from each group, and 4 (out of 5) best 3rd placed teams advance to U21 WC, where this 14 teams will join 18 teams that have been automaticaly qualified.

Two weeks (it infact means only 1 free Sunday) after U21 Qualifications are finished, U21 WC will start and it will be organised the same way the real WC is organised.

Both, the qualification groups and WC groups, will be based on random draw.

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1) 21 year-old players and younger are allowed to play.
The age update is in week 15. This means that 22 year-old players are allowed to play in the Semi-final and the Final of the U21 World Cup. (It would not be logical if they were only allowed to play until the Quarter-Final)

2) If a country plays with older players then allowed, it automatically loses it's match 5-0.
If that country makes this mistake again, it is automatically disqualified from the tournament. (In the qualifications or in the group stage, every match of this country will be a 5-0 loss)

3) If a country arranges a wrong game (not with the country they should play against), then they automatically loose 5-0.

4) If a country does not accept the match invitation before Wednesday 23.59 PM Sokker time, it will automatically lose it's match 5-0.

5) Group stage matches have to be played with league rules, knock-out matches (starting from WEEK 14) have to played with cup rules.

Lett vi vinner U21 VM

Det er så mange gode spillere som er 21. De burde hatt grense på 20. Det hadde vært enda gøyere:)

Gleder meg veldig til U-21 VM etter denne, da kan kanskje en av mine spillere være med i troppen og spille med flagget på brystet.

Da er puljene klare for U21 VM. Her er en post skrevet av ikke ukjente julius. Som dere ser var vi heldig med gruppen vi endte opp i :)


Group A
Uruguay
Slovenija
Nederland
Norge

Group B
España
Brasil
Romania
Eesti

Group C
Mexico
Slovensko
Perú
Lietuva

Group D
New Zealand
Magyarország
Suomi
Canada

Group E
Argentina
België
Hrvatska
Italia

Group F
Türkiye
Deutschland
Scotland
Danmark

Group G
Česká republika
Colombia
Bosna i Hercegovina
England

Group H
Portugal
France
Schweiz
USA


Group A
Dream group for Nederland, which should be beyond the reach of others

(considering the strength of teams and the number of juniors

available, proportional to number of users). When teams are of similar

size and strength, experience may count. This puts Slovenija in better

position, as they're headed by Polish experienced manager

Group B
A very very difficult group. Needless to say Espana and Eesti are

senior WC finalist this season. The other 2 teams are also looking

very strong: Romania is SK 2nd country, considering the number of

users (and juniors), Brasil also in top 10 (similar in SK-size to

Espana)

Group C
An easy group for Slovensko.
But possibly not for Lietuva as they are one of the smallest countries

in Sokker. Their senior team strength is mainly based on exporting

youths. But are Mexico or Peru strong enough for going through ?

Possibly not.

Group D
Good group for Magyarország and Suomi. They have many users, so also

many U-21 players. Canada (one of the oldest countries in SK) may have

problems with not so many good young players available. New Zealand

definitely an underdog.


Group E
Definitely a death group.
België - a senior WC finalist and a 3rd largest SK-country, Argentina

looking strong after a great result vs Poland,
Italy - also one of the largest SK-countries, always difficult to play

against and Hrvatska - who may be considered as underdog, as they have

much less users.

Group F
Very levelled group. Scotland with much less users than the rest, but

older countries may afford better coaches. Türkiye too young for

senior WC, but now it may be their time :) Danmark and Deutschland

probably favorites.


Group G
Not a bad group for England and Czechs. Opponents surely in their

reach. But they shouldn't feel so safe, as Bosnia and Herzegovina and

Colombia will surely strongly resist.


Group H
France with nearly 1000 users, Portugal and Schweiz with half less,

USA 3 times less, but playing longer in SK. All teams with similar

chances to stay in the game, France is in very slight advantage.