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tråkigt att många "kända namn" lägger av på slutet.. förstår dock din motivering ..
Har också tappat motivation för spelet sedan junissystemet totalt sög..
Har också tappat motivation för spelet sedan junissystemet totalt sög..
Vi får väl ligga lugnt ett tag så får vi se, nu kan ju det mesta bara bli bättre snart ;)
Känner att jag skulle ha svårt att inte ha matcherna och träningarna kvar längre, så jag avvaktar lite med mitt avhopp. Men... det kommer inte at bli någon tillbakaändring i J:r skolan... och heller ingen mer förändring på supparnas humör, det VET jag nu... och det kan ju ni andra också få veta då ;) Kanske händer det något annat som lyfter upp det hela i stället!
Känner att jag skulle ha svårt att inte ha matcherna och träningarna kvar längre, så jag avvaktar lite med mitt avhopp. Men... det kommer inte at bli någon tillbakaändring i J:r skolan... och heller ingen mer förändring på supparnas humör, det VET jag nu... och det kan ju ni andra också få veta då ;) Kanske händer det något annat som lyfter upp det hela i stället!
Supporters ambience on promotion
Next season we will change the reaction of supporters on automatic promotions and relegations. Currently, as supporters react dramatically to qualification matches, the lack of a reaction of supporters to an automatic promotion or relegation is not sensible. In fact, some managers believe it is better to lose matches and be relegated automatically so as to not have to play a qualifier.
Next season, supporters of teams that are promoted automatically will react very enthusiastically and their mood will reach the highest possible level. Supporters of automatically relegated teams will become upset, and their mood will be set to the lowest possible level.
edit: this mood drop has been done with the monday update, not immediately after the league match, so it might have looked like it had another reason, but it was because of the direct relegation.
Next season we will change the reaction of supporters on automatic promotions and relegations. Currently, as supporters react dramatically to qualification matches, the lack of a reaction of supporters to an automatic promotion or relegation is not sensible. In fact, some managers believe it is better to lose matches and be relegated automatically so as to not have to play a qualifier.
Next season, supporters of teams that are promoted automatically will react very enthusiastically and their mood will reach the highest possible level. Supporters of automatically relegated teams will become upset, and their mood will be set to the lowest possible level.
edit: this mood drop has been done with the monday update, not immediately after the league match, so it might have looked like it had another reason, but it was because of the direct relegation.
Junior league qualifications were not executed correctly, it was executed for Australia only (that country was set for tests... and forgoten to be set for all after testing phase). Because league points were zeroed after that (and teams were still in their old junior leagues), we had to restore junior league poinsts. Qualifications will be executed tomorrow, hopefully without further difficulties.
PS: please report today (!!) if there are any problems about junior league tables
PS: please report today (!!) if there are any problems about junior league tables
greg till greg
We got mail table problem. Error is fixed now, but mails, guestbook notes from today and yesterday are lost as we had to restore it from backup.
We got mail table problem. Error is fixed now, but mails, guestbook notes from today and yesterday are lost as we had to restore it from backup.
Sidan funkar inget vidare just nu, lästa länkar står fortfarande som olästa. Tabellerna är inte uppdaterade... vet inte vad det beror på? Trollet har du koll?
Jag tycker allt ser ut som det ska?
Starta om och kolla igen Kasp.
Starta om och kolla igen Kasp.
Fick plötsligt tabellerna uppdaterade nu, kanske min browser? Får testa att tömma cashen och se.
Ser bra ut nu :/ Var nog probs för mig bara... använder ju inte datorn så ofta numera så han lackar väl på mig ;)
Lite nyheter på G, översätter förstasidan när semestern är över men ni får ändå infon...
You can see now new option in your match TV Studio, available for matches of your own team. It is supporters expectations about match score. Of course better than score will increase their mood more, worse score than expected will make their mood drop (how big, depends on how score is worse). Levels of that expectations are listed in rules. Like every levels in Sokker, that also have hidden sublevels (are float numbers).
Also with this news we want to reveal one of supporters mood secret - indicator of class team used for mood calculations change after match. It was said it depends on previous matches of a team, and class of rivals competed, on score achieved in this matches. That is all true.... because that indicator it is supporters number in the club!! :) Why it is fair? Let's say you draw with team with much less supporters, it means that score shows teams are equal, but supporters club is different. It simply mean that you don't deserve such big, bigger than opponents, supporters club so their mood drop, in the effect thay may leave supporters club on Monday. Symmetrical situation is in your opponets club - he deserve more supporters so mood rise.
Similar situation on wins, if you win much less than clubs on such class (so supporters number) difference usually win, basing on thausands of matches statistics, your supporters mood may drop. Don't blame system than, if you got worse score than teams usually achieve, your team is not worthy of your supporters.
Notice that there was no modification in supporters system - new is only supporters expectations indicator in TV Studio. Please, don't report problems on supporters mood, all similar reports were analysed before, and if was wrong it would be took into consideration in supporters mood system already.
You can see now new option in your match TV Studio, available for matches of your own team. It is supporters expectations about match score. Of course better than score will increase their mood more, worse score than expected will make their mood drop (how big, depends on how score is worse). Levels of that expectations are listed in rules. Like every levels in Sokker, that also have hidden sublevels (are float numbers).
Also with this news we want to reveal one of supporters mood secret - indicator of class team used for mood calculations change after match. It was said it depends on previous matches of a team, and class of rivals competed, on score achieved in this matches. That is all true.... because that indicator it is supporters number in the club!! :) Why it is fair? Let's say you draw with team with much less supporters, it means that score shows teams are equal, but supporters club is different. It simply mean that you don't deserve such big, bigger than opponents, supporters club so their mood drop, in the effect thay may leave supporters club on Monday. Symmetrical situation is in your opponets club - he deserve more supporters so mood rise.
Similar situation on wins, if you win much less than clubs on such class (so supporters number) difference usually win, basing on thausands of matches statistics, your supporters mood may drop. Don't blame system than, if you got worse score than teams usually achieve, your team is not worthy of your supporters.
Notice that there was no modification in supporters system - new is only supporters expectations indicator in TV Studio. Please, don't report problems on supporters mood, all similar reports were analysed before, and if was wrong it would be took into consideration in supporters mood system already.
You can see now new option in your match TV Studio, available for matches of your own team. It is supporters expectations about match score. Of course better than score will increase their mood more, worse score than expected will make their mood drop (how big, depends on how score is worse). Levels of that expectations are listed in rules. Like every levels in Sokker, that also have hidden sublevels (are float numbers).
Jag såg det där idag och tänkte wtf måste vara nått nytt :D
Jag såg det där idag och tänkte wtf måste vara nått nytt :D
Senaste nytt!
Starting with Wednesdays friendlies we are testing a new version of the match engine. In the new engine we have added a little more combination play with short passes to make matches more nice to watch and to further decrease the strength of defensive tactics (tactics like 532). We are also allowing managers to set their own ticket prices.
Combination play
It might look like this is a little change.... but that's not true. In fact the modification is much bigger than the ticket prices added. As with that change there is a related testing process that took a number of weeks. How do we test? We generate hundred of matches and run them repeatedly. It takes up to half and hour. Than we analyse the statistics we get from the matches like average score, shots on the goal, number of passes, long and short, average pass distance, and dozens of similar stats. We check in the statistics to see if the engine performed close to what we wanted to achieve (usually its not:), view some matches and than make some parameter tuning and engine corrections and then repeat testing.... over and over for weeks. Despite this laborious testing, we are still not sure how the engine will perform in every single match. We have already tested combination play a few seasons ago, but that time it failed and we removed it from the match engine. Hopefully this time it will be a success as it is now a much better balance. Please report bugs on Bugs / Ideas (en) forum with match ID and minute, report bug only if weird situation is repeated at least twice in single match and if it is passing bug - especially if player passed instead of shooting or passed to the wrong player. We are mainly interested in NT matches bugs or with top club teams playing their first team squads. Reported bugs in other situation will make it hard to determine if the player was just low skilled, or the engine generated the mistaken action :]
Ticket prices
We are now allowing you to set your match ticket prices for each stand. Prices are able to be set on your stadium page. How expensive or cheap compared to the default price in the rules you set is up to you. We recommend you set prices depending on the size of the supporters clubs of both teams. The better the teams playing the higher you can expect to put the ticket price and still expect the same number of supporters attending your match. So you would get a higher income. Good club teams may expect even one and a half times bigger (150%) higher incomes on matches than before. Notice that if you set the prices much too high less supporters will come, and you can expect lower income. Same if the price is much too low, more supporters will come, but not so much to compensate for such a low price. You will get the highest income if you set the right price for class of teams playing in the match. Of course, if your stadium is little and you expect many supporters to attend the match, more than the total number of places in the stadium, you can set a higher price to get a higher income. However you don't get so high an income compared to extending the stadium.
Reason for the change, apart from making the game more varied and interesting, was saturation of the market with good players at high skills and high wages. Top teams, in many situations, were forced to trade many players to balance their income with expense on wages.
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Vad tror ni om detta?
Angående biljettpriserna så lär det ta ett tag innan man listar ut det optimala. Jag testade att höja med 15-18 kronor så får vi se hur det går.
Det mest intressanta måste dock vara "combination play". Hur tror ni det kommer påverka spelet? Kommer Spelfördelare bli ännu viktigare?
Tycker dock det låter konstigt att det ska "further decrease the strength of defensive tactics (tactics like 532)".
Vill man spela defensivt så ska man väl få göra det utan att straffas? Är ju inte så att defensiva taktiker är oslagbara. Känns som om det starkare laget ändå vinner, fast kanske med färre mål. Ser inget fel i det. Det kallas ju taktik.
Om det blir som de påstår så lär ju inte alla mindre länder samt sämre lag jubla över detta.
Starting with Wednesdays friendlies we are testing a new version of the match engine. In the new engine we have added a little more combination play with short passes to make matches more nice to watch and to further decrease the strength of defensive tactics (tactics like 532). We are also allowing managers to set their own ticket prices.
Combination play
It might look like this is a little change.... but that's not true. In fact the modification is much bigger than the ticket prices added. As with that change there is a related testing process that took a number of weeks. How do we test? We generate hundred of matches and run them repeatedly. It takes up to half and hour. Than we analyse the statistics we get from the matches like average score, shots on the goal, number of passes, long and short, average pass distance, and dozens of similar stats. We check in the statistics to see if the engine performed close to what we wanted to achieve (usually its not:), view some matches and than make some parameter tuning and engine corrections and then repeat testing.... over and over for weeks. Despite this laborious testing, we are still not sure how the engine will perform in every single match. We have already tested combination play a few seasons ago, but that time it failed and we removed it from the match engine. Hopefully this time it will be a success as it is now a much better balance. Please report bugs on Bugs / Ideas (en) forum with match ID and minute, report bug only if weird situation is repeated at least twice in single match and if it is passing bug - especially if player passed instead of shooting or passed to the wrong player. We are mainly interested in NT matches bugs or with top club teams playing their first team squads. Reported bugs in other situation will make it hard to determine if the player was just low skilled, or the engine generated the mistaken action :]
Ticket prices
We are now allowing you to set your match ticket prices for each stand. Prices are able to be set on your stadium page. How expensive or cheap compared to the default price in the rules you set is up to you. We recommend you set prices depending on the size of the supporters clubs of both teams. The better the teams playing the higher you can expect to put the ticket price and still expect the same number of supporters attending your match. So you would get a higher income. Good club teams may expect even one and a half times bigger (150%) higher incomes on matches than before. Notice that if you set the prices much too high less supporters will come, and you can expect lower income. Same if the price is much too low, more supporters will come, but not so much to compensate for such a low price. You will get the highest income if you set the right price for class of teams playing in the match. Of course, if your stadium is little and you expect many supporters to attend the match, more than the total number of places in the stadium, you can set a higher price to get a higher income. However you don't get so high an income compared to extending the stadium.
Reason for the change, apart from making the game more varied and interesting, was saturation of the market with good players at high skills and high wages. Top teams, in many situations, were forced to trade many players to balance their income with expense on wages.
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Vad tror ni om detta?
Angående biljettpriserna så lär det ta ett tag innan man listar ut det optimala. Jag testade att höja med 15-18 kronor så får vi se hur det går.
Det mest intressanta måste dock vara "combination play". Hur tror ni det kommer påverka spelet? Kommer Spelfördelare bli ännu viktigare?
Tycker dock det låter konstigt att det ska "further decrease the strength of defensive tactics (tactics like 532)".
Vill man spela defensivt så ska man väl få göra det utan att straffas? Är ju inte så att defensiva taktiker är oslagbara. Känns som om det starkare laget ändå vinner, fast kanske med färre mål. Ser inget fel i det. Det kallas ju taktik.
Om det blir som de påstår så lär ju inte alla mindre länder samt sämre lag jubla över detta.
Själv har jag gjort så här, ståplats 40kr, bänkar 60kr och sittplats 80kr får se hur det går.
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Jag tänkte serie matcher typ 80-90 kr på kort och lång sida , hörnen 55-60 kr
vänskapsmatch hälften.
vänskapsmatch hälften.