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Subject: Rahvuskoondis Borkos007 juhtimisel

2007-08-18 12:51:18
omg estonia sucks...
2007-08-18 12:51:44
No, I don't. I say, that they might be right, I just say WHY have I played like that. :)
2007-08-18 13:03:49
Sokker is so unpredicteable as those just happened "ghost games" showed that very well.

I just watched the game and just my opinion is that our tactics wasn't good enough. Mainly because Netherland MIDs were too free and I was just waiting when Netherland scores.

It does not matter we got more 1-1-s, Netherland got more shots, they owned the ball more, half time statistics show that they were more active and this also shows something.
Too bad that we don't have more statistics in Sokker. I mean how many succsessful passes, how many dribbles, how many ball losses and so on.

Anyway, the best thing with Borkos007 is that he has willing and time to do the work with NT. I would not have that time for example and I'm too lazy to make new tactics all the time.

Anyway, good luck with U21.
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2007-08-18 13:05:57
It does not matter we got more 1-1-s, Netherland got more shots,

Long shot is far less dangerous than 1 on 1. Still...I will count later those shots, imo they got their advantage in shots after the '90.

Thanks for good luck and for the critic, it really helps. :)
2007-08-18 13:11:02
hmm, why use kalmre as high wing when you have lootsmann?

I was amazed how good we played considering the tactic actually. I think we lost only because or strikers where misplaced.

And Toomas Sai whats your explination of your worst performance yet, problems in home?
2007-08-18 13:12:26
I hoped Kalmre to make a crucial pass after a throw in, that's all...I was changing Lootsmann, Kalmre and Oltsvel since yesterday about 8 times.

Because the tactic wasn't bad! ;-))
2007-08-18 13:30:49
It doesn't matter how many 1on1's we got. The score matters.
2007-08-18 13:31:27
I know, but the comparison of sitations says that it was even...
2007-08-18 13:33:28
Well, I don't know in which way you compare them. Netherlands offensive game was better. Say whatever you want, we lost because we didn't have a constructive offensive game.
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2007-08-18 13:37:53
Maybe you are right. Still, was something coming out from this good Nederlands offensive game? No really good situation in 90min, strikers and wingers well covered - strikers were loosing the ball about 1-2 sec after they got it.

How many people, so many opinions. :)
2007-08-18 13:45:07
Well, the difference is, that you're oppinion sound like we deserved to win.

Well, we lost 0:2.
2007-08-18 13:48:05
I don't say we should've won. I just think that the game wasn't bad and it could've go either side, that's all.
2007-08-18 13:59:48
I'd say holland had critical chance in 89'th minute which Tore blocked very well. Kalmre got 2 nice free kicks! (Tho i wanted more from him:P)

Actually we remind me of England RL NT- they have World Class def and mid and shitty strikers:D
2007-08-18 14:06:52
'11 Miil makes a header after Liitmaa's pass, goalkeepers punches it and grabs the ball when Kelder was just about to shot.
'21 Miil dribbles and goes to one on one, shots but the Goalkeeper remains unbeaten
'29 Van den Haar makes a long shot outside of penalty area, but he misses
'61 Miil get's on one one after a pass, shots but the GK punches it, Stadwijk clears the situation.
'89 Van den Haar makes a header from outside of penalty are, Tore clears it.

Do you still think Oliver that Eesti was soo weak in this game, and the tactic was bad? :( Mind that Nederland has one of best teams in all sokker...and these are all shots in '90 minutes...
2007-08-18 14:10:36
Here`s my opinion.

I´ll give 4p out of 5 for the tactics/match. I didn´t like it because you used both strikers too high. That was a certain mistake and bit to risky aswell. Right call would have been using only one striker behind the Nederlands defense and other one bit lower. Also using Kalmre as high winger was also wrong. He can pass, but doesn´t have pace/tech which are basically the most important skills for that position. Of course Hells tactics was good, because high winger didn`t have any free space and I am sure Hells guessed that you´ll be using one.

At the beginning of match you said "No winger from Nederland. Bad"
As the match really showed, that our wing backs had a lot work, because Mulders
and de Waal were playing quite wide. So imo it was a good decision. I also liked how did you eliminate opponent chances to get goals from "after throw-in situations" Click.

I think we just didn`t have enough luck to win. Miil missed both 1on1 situations. Bit too much for a match on such level.

I think the best player on the pitch today was Nederalands keeper. The worst on was unfortunately our Toomas Sai. So many false passes. I usually don´t watch
our NT matches, but I also can´t remember, when he played that bad.
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2007-08-18 14:17:03
I didn´t like it because you used both strikers too high.

That's right, a huge mistake :( at the beginning when I made the tactic, Kelder was sometimes even 1 square lower to make long shots, but then I though he might be useful to make the second shot when keeper punches Miil's shot. Didn't worked well, great decision of Hells to move the defence forward.

As the match really showed, that our wing backs had a lot work, because Mulders
and de Waal were playing quite wide.


Yes, NED's tactic wasn't looking like at the beginnig. Two wingers were having the ball often, so choosing to play with 5 defs wasn't actually a mistake. I would play like this:

X---XX---X

But I was afraid that Hells might move on of the forwards to left, or right.

And the def-throw ins worked quite well, I agree.

And Sai..yeah...