Subject: Trening

ne kužim lijevu tablicu : u istom košu pass, def i tech , a svaki skill se trenira različitom brzinom

to bi trebalo biti koliko mu treninga treba za skok uz maksimalni talent (1 trening = 100) ?

ili to korigiraš sa ovim dolje koeficijentima ? Ali zašto je onda pace tablica posebno?

ja sam nekako oduvijek bio uvjeren da generalni trening = 0.125, odnosno 8 generalnih je 1 trening, ali vidim već nekoliko puta spominjete 7 ... je li to netko potvrdio? Ne pratim baš INT forum jbg

To je ono što su "pojačali" kada su skratili sezonu.

Koeficijenti su iz SokkerAsistente. Samo da se zna zašto se brzina vodi odvojeno.
Bilo bi vam jednostavnije koristiti SA za praćenje treninga i onda otprilike pogoršati tamo navedeni talent za 0.5 i to bi bio realni talent.
Tablica je prilično točna, jer su vodili treninge 16, 17 i 18y igrača i bilježili koliko je pojedini igrač trebao za skok sa starim talentom koji je bio linearan.

staminu je recimo Larma bivši u21 skakao redovno svakih 8 generala bez obzira na skill i godine , a koliko znam za staminu od skilla 0 do 11 za svaki skok treba točno 1 trening
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Stamina treba 80 bodova za skok, neovisno o talentu - manje od 1 treninga. Jel glavni trener imao 16 u stamini?

(Zato se znalo događati da igrači skoči za 2 skilla nakon treninga stamine)
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Ovako određuju talent igračima vanjski programi... ja idem više na ono što sam mogu usporediti, jer nažalost nisam programer.

Pojasni mi malo kako si došao da je 244 boda talent 4 ili bolji.
Čemu služe ovi koeficijenti gore?

Imam igrače koji mi služe kao reference, pa mogu zaviriti koliko je njima trebalo sa 19y za pojedini skill. ;) Moglo bi se reći - žrtvovao sam zaradu za bolji uvid u trening.

talent 4 je iz starog sistema juniorske škole jer je tada nije bilo random skokova iliti procjene trenera u juniorskoj nego je bio definitivno točno ta vještina ali nisu bile vidljive godine

sada se približno procijeniti talent u juniorskoj samo za juniore koji su duze u juniorskoj ili izadju sa visokim zbrojem za svoje godine

a u seniorima se talent može definitno potvrditi samo ako imaš više skokova preko generalnog treninga

sad sam provjerio ove što imam, uključujući i maskote, skaču u stamini od 7 do 9 svi bez obzira igrali ili ne, jesu li na advanced ili općem treningu.... opet mi je prosjek 8

prošli trener bio 16, novi 15 u stamini

...ali nisu bile vidljive godine

ma kad to nisu bile vidljive godine juniorima?

i najbolji talent nije 3.0 nego 3.11 ili tako nešto

to smo davno izračunali na osnovu maksimalnog ulaznog broja tjedana u školi i maksimalnog ulaznog talenta , a da igrač ne bi izašao kao verysuperdivine :-)

Miler je skočio sa 19y za 243 boda na 9 passing što bi bilo otprilike isto kao i 19y Horvatovićev play. Miler je prema kalkulacijama (ne mojim, niti iz juniorske škole) - 3.4 talent. Tako da sam to uzeo kao referencu.


Navodno je max. ulazni skill u juniorskoj 7.6, što zna biti vidljivo kao solid i teoretski ako je talent 3.1 bi mogao junior za 34 tjedna doći do 18 skilla, ali to je samo teorija. Meni bi Linić mogao biti 3.14 talent, što je isto jedna od pretpostavki da je to najbolji mogući - drugi kažu da su izračunali da može biti i bolji, ali dok ne vidim - ne vjerujem! ;)

ma kad to nisu bile vidljive godine juniorima?


pa koliko se ja sjećam tako je bilo prije reforme juniorske

Godine su uvijek bile vidljive